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Witkoff Advised Russia on How to Pitch Ukraine Plan to Trump

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twixfel

18h ago

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I wonder how they will talk about this decline and fall of this American Empire in the future. Ultimately I think it will become clear that the constitution failed, as one of its primary purposes was to stop such populist enemies of the Enlightenment from coming to power. Well, 250 years was quite good, but eternity is a long time! Maybe parliamentary democracy has finally proven superior to presidential systems.

Has such a dominant power collapsed in this way before? Just arbitrarily decided one day to betray all its allies and start fellating its enemies? Think of the last hegemon, the British Empire, fundamentally that was unsustainable because it's a small island off the coast of Europe, but still it fought two world wars before it finally had to pass the torch. Meanwhile the USA has collapsed in on itself completely foregoing such a glorious end.

mamonster

17h ago

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>Maybe parliamentary democracy has finally proven superior to presidential systems

Because the parliamentary democracies like in Europe are doing so much better....

twixfel

16h ago

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Well, yes, many of them appear to be. Mostly not as rich as the USA, of course, though. And I should remind you also that not all countries in Europe have parliamentary systems anyway. France and Russia don't, for example.

lenkite

8h ago

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Yes, they are doing so well. Merely threatening free software with arrests/seizure for refusing backdoors.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46037573

Others are arresting 20K people a month for social media posts that go against the orthodoxy. Doing really well indeed.

twixfel

6h ago

Well my original claim was regarding parliamentary democracy, and France is not a parliamentary democracy, so I shan't go to any great lengths defending them over something I know nothing about. But yes, these countries are not perfect anyway and I did not suggest otherwise. Only that many of them seem to be fundamentally more stable and successful than the USA. And tbh, what other country has done well with a presidential system besides South Korea?

Anyway we are witnessing the sudden collapse of the American Empire and it is fascinating and tragic to watch. You guys, you really have fucked it all up! A country not more than 30 years from the absolute peak of its global power, decided to abandon all claims to global power and influence by voting for Trump a second time. Incredible, just, incredible. Americans, everybody!

rsynnott

12h ago

The only one that seems to have failed in the same way as the US system has failed is Hungary (Turkey isn't a parliamentary republic). Now, obviously, a parliamentary democracy isn't a _guarantee_ that you won't fall into autocracy/kleptocracy (notably, the Weimar Republic was one, albeit a poorly designed one), but they do seem more resistant to it than presidential republics, where it seems to almost happen more often than not.

lawn

14h ago

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Remind us, what's the punishment for seditious acts?

jimbohn

12h ago

Making lots of money, at least in the Western hemisphere!

jacquesm

3h ago

Getting a library named after you? Or an airport in some cases?

duxup

4h ago

Sedition

belterAuthor

1d ago

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Last activity 3h agoPosted Nov 25, 2025 at 6:43 PM EST

Witkoff Advised Russia on How to Pitch Ukraine Plan to Trump

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