Why do voice transcription apps charge monthly when Whisper runs locally?
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I got frustrated paying monthly for something that could run on my Mac, so I built Lucid Voice:
- 100% offline (Nvidia Parakeet + Llama)
- $20 one-time (mainly to cover Apple's notarization costs)
- Runs on surprisingly low-end hardware (M1 base models work fine)
- No cloud, no data collection
Open to feedback on anything - pricing, the tech stack, or if this should just be free: https://lucidvoice.app
How can this be guaranteed if it is closed source?
Other than that, great project.
Might open source if there's demand - testing that now
Still haven't managed to find one that works as well as MacWhisper.
Generally speaking, it is the hardware not the OS that makes it easier to build for Macs right now.
Apple Neural Engine is a sleeping giant, in the middle of all this.
- `sherpa-onnx` bindings for your favourite language
- package for capturing your mic input
- package for hotkey capture
- package for clipboard management (or shell out to `xclip`)
- shell out to `xdotool key --clearmodifiers "ctrl+v"` to paste
Tell it to go research all the above and then assemble into whatever form you want. I had Claude write a Go daemon that loads parakeet and runs as a systemd user service listening for Alt-Space in about 20 minutes.
At the same time, I think you shouldn't give away "Lifetime updates" for same pricing tier. Are you planning to support it for the next 10+ years and across next 5-10 mac hardware/version without any new license cost?
Heard some feedback about reliability issues with MacWhisper as well - trying to build something more stable from the ground up.
Consumers undercount the true total cost. And because X% of people will forget they're subscribed and keep paying forever.
If every month you had to either consent to recurring charge on your card or unsubscribe, I'm sure billions of revenue would evaporate overnight from people mass unsubscribing.
(I wish there was regulation that required companies to automatically pause monthly subscriptions if you haven't logged in to or used the service in any way for 3+ months. Though that would create some weird incentives)
For example, the Wall Street journal pricing is pretty wild (8 dollars a month for the first 3 months then jumps to much higher) so I use a virtual card which expires right before the planned price hike.
For other services I like to either use a virtual card with a single transaction limit, or just buy the service and cancel right away which typically is equivalent to just paying for a month
Canceling the card does not work for predatory companies. Maybe for well-meaning ones that automatically cancel when a charge declines.
My elderly parents have a cheap voip landline that they never use but keep for peace of mind. It'd be unideal if that got automatically "paused" and then it didn't work the one time they tried to use it to call 911.
Sure, the scenario would mean their cell phones are not working, or they're suffering from some cognitive issue, so it's unlikely -- but still plausible.
The "forgot to cancel" revenue model works, but (like you implied) it's predatory when the software doesn't need ongoing infrastructure.
It's local first, privacy first, one-time payment. You buy it and get lifetime updates.
Currently available for Windows and very soon for MacOS and Linux. I'm working on Wayland/Hyprland support because I'm using Omarchy;-)
If you look at Handy's website, you'll see that the author encourages forks anyway.
I'm also offering support for my customers and will build what they want. It's a different game.
Of course, most of what my app does now is very similar to Handy, but isn't it normal when you fork something? Discrepancies grow over time, not overnight. I've already implemented many things differently, and am working on features that will probably never be in Handy anyway. I have different goals and ideas.
Some people only see evil in starting from an open source project and building something proprietary. But isn't the whole point of the MIT license to have full freedom? I love open source and I actually intend to contribute back to Handy.
People who request features from open source projects might never get what they want or need if it doesn't align with the maintainers vision or if they don't have the bandwidth. Most of the time, open source software comes without any guarantees, without any support, ... Which is perfectly fine since it all comes for free. What I'm doing is building a commercial product, with actual support, and long-term commitment to my customers.
I'm a solopreneur, working hard on the side, trying to build a sustainable business. And working on a project like this for a long time without any revenue is not sustainable unless you have enough runway. I did that a few years back and don't intend to make the same mistake again (https://www.dsebastien.net/2021-01-04-20-months-in-2k-hours-...).
As an example, I'm very focused on Knowledge Management & Obsidian. Integrating first-class support in Knowii Voice AI for interacting with Obsidian is one of the short-term goals I have in mind. It's not something that would make sense to add to Handy, it's too niche. But it does make sense for my app and my customers because many of them are also into knowledge management and have been following me for a long while.
Anyways. I'll build my project, find people who want to support my work, and do my best to deliver what they want and need. Sorry if it goes against the common ideas that forking an open source project to build something proprietary is wrong, that forks should be open source and that they should be vastly different from day one or be free.
Part of the cost is the amortization of the development cost of building and training the model. Perhaps that's why there is a monthly subscription component. That would make economic sense, although I suspect it's more psychological in that you want people to use your product and a subscription makes that easier. If you think about the cost of each generation then you're not going to have a good time using it.
My point was more though that you pay for the convenience and the inference cost. I can also make my own bread, but my local bakery or supermarket can make it much more efficiently at scale and cheaper.
It sounds like a valid argument that you did not articulate was "You can buy a house, but if a house costs way too much to buy, then another option is you can rent it." The house is a fixed static good like a local piece of software, but it just costs so much in total that you can't afford to buy it and have to rent access to borrow it. You can't copy a house for free so it's still not quite there but the essense is.
So maybe the model costs so much to create that if you were to buy it, it would have to cost ... Well the Chinese say they made a model for $6M. So that could be as little as $1 per person if it goes popular. Let's make it $100 just to be over the top generous. So maybe the analogy and the excuse for the subscription still doesn't wash.
I use the app constantly, all day long.
Lawyers usually would purchase transcription devices, and then either they would have a pool of transcribers (i remember installing foot pedals for forward/back playback operation) or pay a subscription to the manufacturer for mysterious likely offshore people to transcribe for them.
People have a hard time letting go of revenue, but I am betting most of the same people are still in business and want to pied piper consumers of transcription services to the same business model that now costs them pennies instead of wages.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/view-a-transcription-...
I’ve found that Whispering [https://github.com/EpicenterHQ/epicenter/tree/main/apps/whis...] plus Groq pay-as-you-go is a great combination. Not quite free, but cheap enough that it isn’t a consideration.
The price tag is $30/YEAR. The current MRR is about $700 and I'm paying $7/mo for Groq Whisper Turbo.
These apps really don't have any reason to be so pricey, it's all just margin.
Spokenly is free (one time fee of $0) and does the same (and even more)
My answer to "why have a monthly subscription" would be that you need capabilities that Whisper doesn't handle well, like real-time transcription in noisy environments.
That's not the niche you're targeting here, though. :)
My experience is that Whisper - not being built for real time speech to text - isn't as good at it as other tools are. You can hack something together by stacking together progressively more audio frames to feed to Whisper to give it context, but IME, you're going to get better results from a model that's designed for real-time STT in the first place, or by using a service like Azure Speech to Text which has excellent noise resilience... but which is also an ongoing cost which would justify a subscription. Real-time Whisper also devours your battery quickly.
That said - while I've had very good experiences with Parakeet in MacWhisper, I'm curious if you evaluated Apple's SpeechAnalyzer APIs at all. It's unfortunately limited macOS/iOS/iPadOS 26+ since it's a new API, but it's on device, has comparable quality of results to Whisper Large v3 Turbo and Parakeet, and seems to be better on battery usage.
I'd assume there are good free alternatives though. If not I'd have a non-zero motivation to build one, having dabbled enough with whisper and running several of my own distributed automatic transcription systems
Hopefully we will see even more locally run AI models in the future with a complete package.
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