Wealthy foreigners 'paid for chance to shoot civilians in Sarajevo'
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The story reports on allegations that wealthy foreigners paid to shoot civilians in Sarajevo during the Bosnian War, sparking a discussion on the credibility of the claims and the broader context of war crimes.
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Ideology is one thing, but he is enjoying killing civilians, knowing they're civilians. Awful.
From Wikipedia:
> The Fraser Institute is a conservative Canadian public policy think tank registered as a charity.
This is the first time I am hearing about the mass graves being a hoax.
Some potential burial sites were investigated, no bodies were found. Unmarked graves in association with residential schools certainly have been found in Canada, and since proving a negative in regards to these claims is untenable, the media is generally reluctant to say "see, there were no mass graves after all"
People who were skeptical at The Fraser Institute are probably also skeptical of Quillette
>As of April 2025, no bodies have been exhumed from the suspected gravesites, largely due to a lack of community consensus on whether to investigate detected anomalies at the risk of disturbing burials.[9] As of January 2024, at least three official excavations had been performed with no bodies discovered, though at least one excavation only investigated a portion of the reported ground anomalies at that site.[10][11][12] Disputes regarding the conclusiveness of the evidence has helped spawn a movement of denialism about the existence of some or all residential school burial sites.[9][13][14] Indigenous groups and academics have dismissed claims of a "mass grave hoax", saying that claimed discoveries of mass graves were present in a minority of stories published by mainstream media and that there had been public misinterpretation of what had actually been announced in 2021.[15
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_sc...
It sounds like the "mass" part of the "mass graves" is disputed, and there's motte-and-bailey on both sides (eg. "you must think nobody/bazillion died in residential schools") muddying the dispute.
You've a gripe with outrage and yet... I mean, any think tank can write anything they think and post it to the interwebs. Here's the other side's perspective:
Since the confirmation of community knowledge of suspected unmarked graves in Kamloops, First Nations across Canada have located evidence of the remains of more than 2,300 children in suspected unmarked graves at or near former residential schools and Indian hospitals, according to the report.
But the unauthorized visits to the site are the work of a "core group" of Canadians who continue to deny, defend or minimize the physical, sexual, psychological and emotional abuse inflicted on Indigenous children in the Indian Residential School System "despite the indisputable evidence of survivors and their families," Murray said at a Friday news conference. Denialism and disrespect exacerbate the pain and trauma of survivors and community members trying to grieve and search the grave sites. "Denialism is violence. Denialism is calculated. Denialism is harmful. Denialism is hate," Murray said.
If a white person has a drunk uncle or crazy aunt tell a wild conspiracy theory at a family gathering, people dismiss them as a kook. But if an indigenous person does the same thing, it's supposed to be treated as sacred cultural knowledge being passed down?
I have an uncle who swears there are thousands of people who've been killed by Bill and Hillary Clinton. He has lists and websites and links to obituaries about deaths "deemed suicides" or "not investigated" or "unsolved". I don't think that my skepticism about his claims is violence or hate.
You realise the investigations are on-going after the initial community-led assessments done with remote sensing tech like GPRs (ground penetrating radars)? This is where this denialism takes an ugly turn.
> If a white person has a drunk uncle or crazy aunt tell a wild conspiracy theory at a family gathering, people dismiss them as a kook.
I mean, new Holocaust mass graves are still being discovered as institutions keep their investigations up using GPRs! You deny those graves, too? Sure Holocaust denialism is filled with "kooks" unto itself, but surely, we're not those kooks? https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327194663_Holocaust...
Not the exact circumstances as described in the article, but killings were very real.
But this does remind me of that excellent docu-series The Line about members of a Navy SEAL platoon who accused their chief of war crimes.
https://tv.apple.com/us/show/the-line/umc.cmc.4u53f7zokr7g40...
There are also specific individuals whose details have been sent to SISMI for investigation.
I can't read the article, but none of this really contradicts OP's point, which is that all of this hinges on hearsay. Is there any evidence presented that isn't hearsay?
All it takes is a mix of morbid curiosity, a bit of boredom, lots of money and a prominent antisocial personality disorder.
I think this is mainly a political topic, with no relation to science or technology. Or did I miss something?
I flagged it. The discussion is interesting, but I do bot enjoy it in HN. Or at the very least is certainly not what I come to HN for.
I do not want the world to exist to any whim. I just made a remark, with a personal opinion. Sorry to see, such is not welcome here, but mere political news which have absolutely nothing to do with hackers, computers, technology or science are very well received.
And BTW, I was bot so wrong, it got flagged. So there is that for your whim.
BTW autism is a disorder, using that the way you do, as some kind of insult is disrespectful and disgusting.
(It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia S04E01)
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3epygq5272o
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