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Nov 23, 2025 at 11:54 AM EST

'Suddenly exposed' DOGE employees fear prosecution after Musk abandoned them

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jeffrallen
14h ago
1 reply
Do the crime, do the time.
andrewinardeer
12h ago
1 reply
Sorry for being so cynical, but that's just wishful thinking these days.
euroderf
11h ago
We are taking about an American nomenklatura. We are talking about neofeudalism.
torlok
14h ago
2 replies
It would be great to see some justice for the enormous harm done, same for ICE, but if only the collaborators get punished then it's bittersweet at best.
bdangubic
10h ago
whoever gets punished will be pardoned eventually
dragonwriter
11h ago
Its clearly unfair if only the little fish get punished while the big fish don't.

OTOH, in practical terms, you can't have big fish without little fish supporting them, so if you drive up the perceived cost of the actions of the former, you make it harder for future instances of the latter even without the (obviously preferable) direct accountability, so its better than nothing.

ndsipa_pomu
13h ago
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If these employees knowingly performed illegal acts, but believed that being close to Musk/Trump meant that they wouldn't face the music, then what kind of law enforcement/justice is there remaining in the U.S.?

It's also galling as it seems to be the opposite of the Nuremberg defense - employees can knowingly do illegal acts as long as their boss/commander wants them to. A complete lack of personal responsibility.

dragonwriter
11h ago
> If these employees knowingly performed illegal acts, but believed that being close to Musk/Trump meant that they wouldn't face the music, then what kind of law enforcement/justice is there remaining in the U.S.?

If Trump actually pardons them, and their crimes were exclusively federal, then none.

If Trump doesn't pardon them, or any state crimes were committed, then potentially some (though, for federal crimes, unless the Trump Justice Department actively prosecutes them, which seems improbable even in the absence of a pardon, that requires the crime have a sufficiently long statute of limitations to be prosecutable in a subsequent administration, and even if that is in 2029 there is only a short window for most federal crimes, which have a five year statute of limitations, and I would suspect there is going to be a big investigative and prosecutorial backlog to address at that time.)

aeternum
13h ago
1 reply
Seems like a non-story, why wouldn't trump simply pardon them? These would be some of the more obvious pardons to hand out, and there's clearly no longer a precedent by either party to hand out pardons sparingly.
nativeit
12h ago
1 reply
They can’t afford Trump’s pardons. You don’t just give something like that away for free. Art of the deal.
bdangubic
10h ago
trump respects loyalty maybe even more than money. none of J6 rioters/murderers who were pardoned went to mar-a-largo with an envelope or thumb drive
mindslight
12h ago
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watwut
11h ago
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> the narrative will morph into something like these were cowboys doing unauthorized things at Musk's behest

They just knowingly broke the law. They are not saying "omg, I thought I am doing fully legal thing". They are saying "omg, the mafia boss does not have interest or power to protect me anymore after I broke the law for him". And they are saying it very very literally here.

Literally here:

> the man who had a direct line to Trump, who they believed could pick up the phone and secure a presidential pardon if the worst came.

This is not about "narrative changing". This is them working for crime boss, knowingly and now finding out crime boss don't care anymore.

mindslight
11h ago
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D-Coder
11h ago
1 reply
This article links to a longer, more detailed article: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/11/21/doge-elon-....
watwut
11h ago
1 reply
I cant get over who politico goes out of its way to portray them as sympathetically as possible, out of its way to downplay what went on as much as humanly possible ... while still making them sound bad.

For example:

> All the cut contracts and purported savings were triumphantly (if at times misleadingly and inaccurately) itemized on a new DOGE.gov website.

Yeah, they lied openly and brazenly in those numbers. They were not "at times misleading and inaccurate", that is making it sound much better then it was.

icegreentea2
6h ago
1 reply
That's because politico reports on politics from an "inside baseball" perspective. The focus is much more on the mechanics of politics and government as it happens/operates, and less so on the actual policies. To do this effectively, they need access, and so will consistently softball or smooth over things.

As they say right at the start of their "About Us", "POLITICO illuminates the forces shaping global power".

watwut
2m ago
This ia beyond insiders baseball. You can do insiders baseball without going out of your way to whitewash as much.

They dont just softball. They defend and literally go out of their way to imply false things - all to protect republicans.

It is very much one sided defense too.

huhkerrf
10h ago
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> After Musk bought Twitter, Davis and his wife, Nicole Hollander, slept in the San Francisco headquarters of the Twitter office with their one-month-old child while they helped Musk cut the social media company to the bone. Once, according to a Musk biographer, they spent a Christmas Eve helping Musk move data servers.

From the linked Politico story.

This is just sad. I cannot begin to understand what motivates someone to do this. Sending people to the moon, curing cancer, sure. But sacrificing so much to fire people from a social media company?

bdangubic
10h ago
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> This is just sad. I cannot begin to understand what motivates someone to do this

money

xyzzy123
3h ago
I think the figure Musk circulated was that it was losing $4M / day. Although that might include the interest bill on the debt used for financing.
silexia
8h ago
1 reply
DOGE employees did nothing illegal, name what crime was committed?

They were the result of the democratic process the left claims we need to protect. Trump ran on cutting waste and fraud and corruption in government and DOGE was intended to do that.

seattle_spring
6h ago
Just off the top of my head:

* Illegally firing federal employees

* Canceling government contracts without authority

* Grossly violating privacy laws by accessing sensitive federal data

Those are just the things they've boasted about. I shudder to think what further crimes they've committed behind closed doors.

juliusceasar
14h ago
https://archive.is/Eimq0
tehwebguy
6h ago
This is just wishful thinking. Unfortunately the damage they came to do has been done and without an act of the legislature (less likely than an act of god) the damage will stay done.
dcchambers
9h ago
Surely you didn't do anything ILLEGAL, right DOGE employees?
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