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Nov 22, 2025 at 1:47 PM EST

Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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This started as a reaction to a conversational trope. Despite being a tranquil place, even conversations at my yoga studio often start with, "Can you believe what's going on right now?" with that angry/scared undertone.

I'm a news avoider, so I usually feel some smug self-satisfaction in those instances, but I wondered if there was a way to satisfy the urge to doomscroll without the anxiety.

My hypothesis: Apply a 40-year latency buffer. You get the intellectual stimulation of "Big Events" without the fog of war, because you know the world didn't end.

40 years creates a mirror between the Reagan Era and today. The parallels include celebrity populism, Cold War tensions (Soviets vs. Russia), and inflation economics.

The system ingests raw newspaper scans and uses a multi-step LLM pipeline to generate the daily edition:

OCR & Ingestion: Converts raw pixels to text.

Scoring: Grades events on metrics like Dramatic Irony and Name Recognition to surface stories that are interesting with hindsight. For example, a dry business blurb about Steve Jobs leaving Apple scores highly because the future context creates a narrative arc.

Objective Fact Extraction: Extracts a list of discrete, verifiable facts from the raw text.

Generation: Uses those extracted facts as the ground truth to write new headlines and story summaries.

I expected a zen experience. Instead, I got an entertaining docudrama. Historical events are surprisingly compelling when serialized over weeks.

For example, on Oct 7, 1985, Palestinian hijackers took over the cruise ship Achille Lauro. Reading this on a delay in 2025, the story unfolded over weeks: first they threw an American in a wheelchair overboard, then US fighter jets forced the escape plane to land, leading to a military standoff between US Navy SEALs and the Italian Air Force. Unbelievably, the US backed down, but the later diplomatic fallout led the Italian Prime Minister to resign.

It hits the dopamine receptors of the news cycle, but with the comfort of a known outcome.

Stack: React, Node.js (Caskada for the LLM pipeline orchestration), Gemini for OCR/Scoring.

Link: https://forty.news (No signup required, it's only if you want the stories emailed to you daily/weekly)

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hu3
1d ago
3 replies
> The system ingests raw newspaper scans and uses a multi-step LLM pipeline to generate the daily edition

This is neat! But I wonder about longevity of the project if it relies on scanning newspapers.

Do you have an endless suply? Perhaps there is some digital archive you could use?

culi
1d ago
2 replies
My Wikipedia Library membership gives me access to some cool resources that might be of interest:

- Arcanum is the largest and continuously expanding digital periodical database from Eastern Europe, which contains scientific and specialized journals, encyclopaedias, weekly and daily newspapers and more

- NewspaperARCHIVE.com is an online database of digitized newspapers, with over 2 billion news articles; coverage extends from 1607 to the present from US, Canada, the UK, and 20 other countries.

- Newspapers.com includes more than 800 million pages from 20,000+ newspapers. The collection includes some major newspapers for limited periods (e.g., first 72 years of the New York Times), but mostly consists of US regional papers from the 1700s to the late 1980s. Free accounts through the Wikipedia Library include access to Newspapers.com Publisher Extra content.

- ProQuest is a multidisciplinary research provider. This access includes ProQuest Central, which includes a large collection of journals and newspapers, Literature Online, the HNP Chinese Newspaper Collections, and the Historical New York Times.

- Wikilala is a digital repository consisting of more than 109,000 documents in printed form, including 45,000 newspapers, 32,000 journals, 4,000 books and 26,000 articles concerning the history of the Ottoman Empire from its founding to the modern times.

Also most newspapers maintain their own archives, usually accessible online. Here's some I get access to: The Corriere della Sera (one of Italy's oldest and most read newspapers); The Corriere della Sera (a century of historical archives); The Times of Malta (Founded in 1935, it is the oldest daily newspaper still in circulation in Malta); ZEIT ONLINE (online version of Die Zeit, a German weekly newspaper) — and quite a few more

mh-
1d ago
1 reply
That's very cool, but I lack the 500+ total edits on Wikipedia to qualify.

My first edit was 20 years ago this month and at my current pace I'll be able to access that in another 588 years.

Is there some other way to pay [Wikipedia/WMF] for access to that bundle?

Arcorann
1d ago
The 500 edits required for access to TWL is actually for all of the sites under the Wikimedia banner. If you're having trouble finding things to edit on Wikipedia, you can try their other sites such as Wikisource or Wikibooks.

On Wikisource in particular, it's fairly easy to make useful edits through validating proofread pages or proofreading simple pages (both of which can be easily found in the Monthly Challenge).

is_true
18h ago
NewspaperARCHIVE.com's cloudflare configuration is a bit paranoid
andix
1d ago
1 reply
Copyright issues will stop this soon. 40 year old newspaper articles aren't public domain yet in most countries. A gray area could be a newspaper that went out of business decades ago. Or maybe some government run newspaper that was public domain in the first place.
jonathanstark
1d ago
As OP said, these aren't the newspaper articles. They're AI generated stories based off the facts of the events.
squigz
15h ago
As long as news was published on this day 40 years ago, why would supply matter?
jonplackett
1d ago
1 reply
> Secretary Rejects Emergency Antibiotics Ban in Animal Feed Health and Human Services

Secretary Margaret M. Heckler on Wednesday refused to impose an emergency ban on the use of antibiotics in animal feed. Mrs. Heckler denied a petition filed by the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC), which had sought to shorten the process by asking the secretary to declare an 'imminent hazard' to public health. Declaring an 'imminent hazard' would invoke emergency powers and allow an immediate ban. The NRDC contended that routine, low-level use of antibiotics in animal feed is allowing drug-resistant bacteria to enter the human food chain, weakening the ability of drugs to fight human disease. The NRDC sought a ban on the use of small amounts of penicillin and tetracycline. Mrs. Heckler's decision does not end the matter permanently, as the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) still can ban antibiotics in animal feed through administrative regulations. The issue of antibiotics in animal feed has already been under review at the FDA for more than eight years

Antibiotic resistance predicted all that time back

culi
1d ago
3 replies
It's funny that this site's tagline is "Exactly 40 years back, these felt huge. See how they landed with time." but so many of these stories are still just as alarming. If anything it often feels like we should've cared more. At the very least done more
tarsinge
19h ago
Yes unfortunately it to me the site replaces anxiety inducing news with depressing information. Current news: bad things are happening. 40 years old news: here are the bad decisions that led to bad things happening now.
serial_dev
1d ago
In a similar vein, I think even news from 40 years ago can teach us a lot. The players may be different, but the game is the same. Many of today’s wars and conflicts were already ongoing; big pharma, big food, oil companies, corruption in our institutions, manufactured coups… it all feels like nothing ever really changes.
tylervigen
19h ago
Indeed, and I think this is a diredt result of OP's pipeline. Part of the workflow involves asking an LLM to prioritize articles that readers in 2025 will find interesting in hindsight.
muststopmyths
1d ago
1 reply
Source or country of origin would be nice.

“Opposition leader Aquino” in article without any other context could be confusing

tclancy
1d ago
Are you under the impression there were a lot of opposition news back in the day if one was just brave enjfffff?
andix
1d ago
1 reply
Without mentioning the source of the articles, it's completely useless. It would be hard to detect completely AI hallucinated articles, without a possibility to check the authenticity of the content.
bdangubic
1d ago
1 reply
> It would be hard to detect completely AI hallucinated articles, without a possibility to check the authenticity of the content.

you can check in a public library or https://google.com

RobGR
14h ago
1 reply
An automated system was already made to collect and sort them, that system should provide it's sources. I can self-fact-check anything, but a system that could provide origin sources and didn't is just AI slop.
bdangubic
11h ago
If human-generated content like this did not provide source would that be called “human slop”? what about system automated by a human coder without help of AI, also “human slop”?
jayknight
1d ago
1 reply
I've wanted a way to listen to a local radio stations broadcast--including ads and dj banter--from this day X years ago.
mh-
1d ago
That would be really fun. Unfortunately, I'd be surprised if the recordings still exist from the pre-"it's all digital" era, which is more recent than most people would think.
nutjob2
1d ago
1 reply
I like this because I can read the newspapers of my youth, when I couldn't read international papers like a can today, not that I read any papers.

Fun fact: I emigrated on the Achille Lauro , half way around the world, over a decade before it was hijacked.

jonathanstark
1d ago
Wow, that's wild
treetalker
1d ago
3 replies
“To be completely cured of newspapers, spend a year reading the previous week’s newspapers.”

― Nassim Nicholas Taleb, The Bed of Procrustes: Philosophical and Practical Aphorisms

TrevorFSmith
1d ago
3 replies
A similar result can be found by reading coverage of events you witnessed or topics you know well.
mh-
1d ago
2 replies
Reading mainstream coverage of tech is certainly what made me lose confidence in much of their other reporting.

Back when tech was this niche thing 20+ years ago, media's illiteracy on the matter was forgivable. Now that it's omnipresent and represents a huge portion of the economy, not so much. Yet the accuracy of the reporting on events that I have familiarity with has barely improved.*

* Acknowledging that this is subjective and I don't have any way to quantify it.

graemep
21h ago
1 reply
Its the same in many areas. You have just escaped Gell-Mann amnesia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gell-Mann_amnesia_effect

Inaccuracy is a common complaint about science reporting.

If you look at how a country is reported in another country, it is often highly inaccurate. In my case its mostly been how Sri Lanka is reported in the UK, but I have also seen lots of inaccurate reporting of the UK in American media (and not restricted to any type of media or political side.)

I have seen quite a bit of inaccurate reporting of business and finance.

Lots of bad reports of survey data, especially related to things like religious and political attitudes. Often the result of badly (or dishonestly) crafted questions.

mh-
14h ago
> just escaped [..]

About 20 years ago, haha, but yes. Am familiar with that term from Crichton.

> [..] UK in American media

If it's any consolation, much of the reporting I see on America in American media is also inaccurate.

> survey data

To me this is perhaps the most egregious bad faith reporting I see. The survey questions themselves are often designed in a way that will likely produce a given result, whether through malice or incompetence. Then the reporting on those results buries the actual questions asked.

I saw one recently, from the early 2000s, that said "majority of Americans cannot locate the Middle East on a map".

But the actual survey's findings were "the majority of Americans can not identify the Middle East on a map".

And what did it mean by that? It was a multiple choice question and if you failed to include the correct extent of North Africa that is regarded as the Middle East, you were considered unable to identify the Middle East.

Something like 85% correctly included Saudi Arabia.

busymom0
8h ago
The Verge's infamous "how to build a gaming PC" tutorial video made me stop visiting their site and mostly stop trusting most tech news.
inglor_cz
1d ago
Reading almost any mass media article on encryption makes me want to scream.
Balgair
1d ago
The classic Murray Gell-Mann amnesia effect
yen223
1d ago
Reminder that you can see last week's (or any day's) HN front page using the `past` link

https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2025-11-16

ycombinete
12h ago
A great way to do this is to subscribe to a weekend edition of a good newspaper.
JuniperMesos
1d ago
8 replies
> For example, on Oct 7, 1985, Palestinian hijackers took over the cruise ship Achille Lauro. Reading this on a delay in 2025, the story unfolded over weeks: first they threw an American in a wheelchair overboard, then US fighter jets forced the escape plane to land, leading to a military standoff between US Navy SEALs and the Italian Air Force. Unbelievably, the US backed down, but the later diplomatic fallout led the Italian Prime Minister to resign.

From the perspective of 2025, I can't help but think about the people I know today getting vocally angry about Israeli violence in the Gaza strip, and suggesting that this violence has implications for US politics - and I wonder how many of those people would be happy to throw an American in a wheelchair off a ship in the name of the Palestinian cause.

Reading the wikipedia article about this incident, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achille_Lauro_hijacking , it seems like the hijackers murdered the guy in a wheelchair before they threw his body off the ship, and it's possible but unproven that they picked him in particular either because he was Jewish or because he was in a wheelchair. The hijackers involved were given long prison sentences, but many of them were released decades ago and have fought against US in other ways since then.

I mostly think of the Israel/Palestine conflict as one that I have no dog in - I'm not Jewish, Israeli, or Palestinian myself and have no ties to the region. Nonetheless, pro-Palestine political messaging is something that happens around me all the time today, and knowing that the conflict was happening 40 years ago and that some of the same things that were happening then are akin to what is happening now colors my opinion of what is happening now.

V__
1d ago
2 replies
Maybe this is just my bubble, but the messaging I get is that Israel should stop murdering Palestinian civilians and not that Hamas is somehow righteous in their actions.
samdoesnothing
1d ago
2 replies
I think it varies. I've seen everything from people simply caring about the wellbeing of Palestinian civilians to rabid Hamas supporters and everything in between. I think it's easy to get stuck in an environment where you mostly see views that align with your own or are the complete opposite (with a corresponding dunk) and it's easy to get rage baited.
jl6
1d ago
2 replies
There’s a lot of ideological snap-to-grid.
wredcoll
1d ago
Also we're a bunch of strangers making very short comments, it's hard to convey the entire nuance of one's opinion on a complex topic.
tacitusarc
11h ago
This is a fantastic analogy for ideological preferences.
graemep
21h ago
It does not help that people feel passionately about these things on the basis on media reporting.

As I said in another comment, my own experience of living in two countries, and reading media from a few others, is that it inaccurate, sometimes wildly so. Sometimes dishonestly so - and dishonesty often comes from simple laziness.

almosthere
1d ago
1 reply
Maybe Hamas should also stop killing them too

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7okhHGRgfpQ

V__
16h ago
I mean obviously yes.
mastazi
1d ago
1 reply
I am Italian, that was one of the proudest moment in our history.

The Achille Lauro episode was an example of Italy choosing what's best for the region rather than what's best for the people across the Atlantic. Hundreds of hostages' lives were saved by the actions of the Italian Government that day.

For context, in the post WW2 era, hundreds of Italian civilians were killed in accidents caused by US military operations in Italy, and our spineless leaders did nothing. In many cases they actively helped covering up the truth. Two of many examples:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itavia_Flight_870

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Cavalese_cable_car_crash

watersb
1d ago
FWIW I was watching a warfare simulation game on YouTube yesterday, and the players were talking about the 1998 Cavalese cable. I remembered reports of it vividly; as a student pilot, one of my recurrent nightmares is of massive electrical cables everywhere, flying through that and trying to escape.

It was far worse for the people on that cable car. It was awful then and still awful now.

sillyfluke
9h ago
I'm trying to wrap my head around coming to this bizarre conclusion from these two news items that are 40 years apart. It is incredibly difficult to come to anywhere close to similar conclusion when considering it with any seriousness.

Ok, so I'm squinting my eyes and trying to imagine...Ok, so I'm an American in the 1940s just reading a news article about the discovery of extermination camps in Germany by allied forces. They just discovered these camps and they don't know yet quite how many people were killed. WW2 has just ended, information is just coming out, slowly. Incidentally I also subscribed to a magazine that prints daily news from 28-30 years ago and I coincidentally also just read, in a news items from 1915-1917, that some group of people calling themselves Zionists, whatever that means, killed a Swedish anthropologist in Palestine who was living with a Arab tribe that was being harrased by the group when attempting to intercede on the tribe's behalf.

And I'm supposed to think what exactly from these two tidbits of information? That Jews seem to have been on this chosen people gambit for a quite a long time and that the Nazis had a point?

Or maybe instead of answering that you can just ask the one in three Jews in New York who voted a pro-palestinian mayor into office why they didn't know any better. New York, incidentally a city that supposedly only rivals Tel Aviv in the number of Jewish residents residing in it.

jl6
1d ago
News is often highly decontextualized, to our detriment. This site is a nice idea, because seeing echoes of today in old news is a starting point for adding a little bit of context back in. A lot of people live in a permanent rage-state induced by the simple good vs evil narratives that are so easy to spin when the context is obscured. These narratives break down when you start to piece together why events unfold the way they do.
andrepd
1d ago
> From the perspective of 2025, I can't help but think about the people I know today getting vocally angry about Israeli violence in the Gaza strip, and suggesting that this violence has implications for US politics - and I wonder how many of those people would be happy to throw an American in a wheelchair off a ship in the name of the Palestinian cause.

I'm quite unsure what this is trying to imply. Israel committed genocide in Gaza, this much is established, and even the skeptics about the word "genocide" admit at least "war crimes". How does knowing that there terrorists from that place murdererd a person in a wheelchair in 1985 change one's view about that?!

May I remind you that Israel murdered over one hundred people in Gaza for over two years. Some of those were even in wheelchairs. Would you like a link to videos, uncensored ones? Double-tap attacks on hospitals? Maybe the screams will not let you sleep at night.

--

Nobody sane would perform the reasoning "Irish terrorists killed hundreds of British people in the 70s and 80s" ergo "the British army should destroy 85% of buildings in Ireland". But apparently s/Ireland/Palestine/ and it's a normal acceptable thing to say!

Finally, "suggesting that this violence has implications for US politics", of course it does. Israel is a major US ally and gets billions of dollars in funding. Of course it has implications on US policy, from diplomacy to finance.

muzani
23h ago
I remember someone sharing news about companies like Shell fearing boycotts. So they restructured and sold or moved the companies they had out of Israel. Turns out the news was dated several decades ago.

There were always peaks where different people held different opinions about the conflict. When they were startups, they'd be vocal about genocide or say, renting out stolen land on Airbnb. As they become bigger and raise more money, they start taking selfies with Voldemort.

komali2
1d ago
> From the perspective of 2025, I can't help but think about the people I know today getting vocally angry about Israeli violence in the Gaza strip

It's really just a question of if collective punishment is ethical, which I say it isn't, and whether genocide is ever justifiable, which I say it isn't.

nashashmi
1d ago
> I wonder how many of those people would be happy to throw an American in a wheelchair off a ship in the name of the Palestinian cause.

Not sure I follow. Are you upset at the Pro-Palestinians? Today? Do you think that throwing a person in a wheelchair off a boat makes it ok to be silent about Israel's genocide? or makes Pro-Palestinians bad?

Your opinions of what is happening now should be a bit more comprehensive and in-depth than the opinions and perceptions of the public from 40 years ago. Social media as it is known today was non-existant. And news in mainstream media was well controlled and manipulated, and less independent, yet had the facade of professionalism and integrity. So there was a lot of news about Palestinians that just were not reported, and if they were reported, were in subdued form.

qnleigh
1d ago
2 replies
I've always wanted a news source with a 4 week delay. This would filter out so much of the noise: rage bait articles about what a politician said, articles about what -may- happen that just promote doomscrolling... Wikipedia sort of does this, but you have to know which articles to look at, though on the upside, you get a lot more historical context.

If something isn't worth knowing about one month later, it wasn't news in the first place.

graemep
21h ago
Ragebait sells.

If you really want to understand issues you will do it by spending the time (probably less time) you spend on reading the new on reading books instead.

o_pax
19h ago
Well, there are monthly international newspapers and magazines. That you can even pay so they can afford not to have to rely on AI and have (hopefully) real journalists do the work. That are also available in digital form. I agree with you that the flood of streaming news is neither healthy nor helpful in creating priorities and perspective. Let's not starve the obvious alternative, as long as it still exists.
moralestapia
1d ago
1 reply
One of my favorite website is the one that replays 9/11 live on 9/11 every year.
sandblast
18h ago
1 reply
Can you share the link?
moralestapia
18h ago
https://911realtime.org/

TIL it works everyday!

nrhrjrjrjtntbt
1d ago
1 reply
We didn't start the fire... as a service.
wizardforhire
1d ago
You know the rules… and so do I
andrepd
1d ago
1 reply
> The system ingests raw newspaper scans and uses a multi-step LLM pipeline to generate the daily edition

Why would such a project possibly benefit for using LLMs to garble the text? Jesus christ the news are right there, just print them without rewriting them using a chatbot -.-

jonathanstark
1d ago
1 reply
Wouldn't the NYT or whoever object to someone reposting their articles?
RobGR
14h ago
I think the NYT is involved in lawsuit claiming garbling them through an LLM is still copyright violation. In any case you could link to them and display the headline, and maybe the first sentence.
nashashmi
1d ago
1 reply

  Police Open Fire as 50,000 Protest Outside Pretoria
  L.A. Times Archives
  Nov. 21, 1985 12 AM PT
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-11-21-mn-2106-s...

Makes me recall a similar story happening in our times in the world. The headline does not mention "Black". [Security force] indiscriminately is killing. World says nothing.

jrmg
1d ago
1 reply
It’s in Pretoria, South Africa, so the context would’ve been immediately obvious to anyone reading at the time.
nashashmi
1d ago
Considering how asleep the civil rights movement was in America over South Africa Apartheid, I don't think most people understood the context.
komali2
1d ago
1 reply
I feel like the implication here is "see, it's not so bad, the world didn't end, not a big deal!" But plenty of these articles describe small events that absolutely contributed to world changing, and often world degrading, things. For better or worse the collapse of the Soviet Union completely changed the world and I've heard compelling arguments this had consequences as faraway as the weakening of Unions in America and the subsequent degredation of labor protections. Or the fall of one of the three world lowers led to one becoming far too powerful (USA) rather than having a somewhat more balanced tri-hegemony.

There's articles about the ongoing conflict against Palestine, the failure to resolve which through choosing escalation of settling and apartheid we still obviously feel today and which led to tragedies such as 9/11 and Oct 7 having fertile grounds to occur.

We see the application of "Reaganomics" (neoliberalism) in Western democracies so we can watch real time as regulations are turned into tools of Capital or defanged to allow corporations to run rampant, the dismantling of labor protections, and the beginning of privatization.

If anything this just teaches the lesson of "no actually the things that are happening really do matter." I say that as someone that doesn't read the news and believes that that makes me much less stressed out than other people I know who daily read the news. But for me it's less about reading the news or not and more about accepting lost causes - for example, I see the USA as a lost cause for a comfortable and safe life for the duration of my lifetime, and so I left, and now I don't really care about internal politics there the same way I don't care about starving children in Africa - well of course I care in my heart but in my mind I don't stress day to day about it because what can I do other than the occasional donation? So too for daily suffering in America and so I don't read about it to uselessly add to my sadness or stress.

sylens
18h ago
Yeah like one of the top articles today is Reagan arguing for tax reform, the spark that kicked off the insane inequality we deal with today.
jrm4
1d ago
1 reply
Wow.

Given that I was around (though young) for that and still mostly forgot about it, I imagine "Star Wars," as a reference to the US/USSR missile thing is probably mostly COMPLETELY unknown to the youngsters?

skylurk
1d ago
1 reply
TIL. Who was who?
jrm4
10h ago
It didn't even go that deep, as I recall. Just a weird name they attached to it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative

firtoz
1d ago
1 reply
Yeah... caused me to read up on the cold war and Mutually Assured Destruction, and it was just plainly insane. Something like, "If you built missile defenses then that would mean that you could be more motivated to attack first so if we even think that you're building missile defenses then we will have to build more nukes to compensate and that'll be worse for both so please stop researching how to defend yourself for both of our sakes"
tech2
21h ago
The one that should probably really freak you out was/is the Soviet "Dead Hand" system. Who needs people deciding whether to launch?
com
16h ago
1 reply
I opened this, only to be confronted by an article about the investigation into the downing of Air India flight 182, a terrorist attack that killed hundreds of people, including my childhood neighbour friends Brinda and Arti and their dad, Vishnu.

Forty years. What lives they could have led, people they would have loved and been loved by. For their family, so many years of grief.

Thank you for this project.

xp84
11h ago
It’s especially painful to read about that again, with another horrific Air India tragedy having happened this year in India :(

RIP to all those innocent people.

airstrike
1d ago
this is pretty awesome! would love to see a few different "sections" like Business, Culture, etc.

Also mixing and matching typography, especially for article headings, would go a long way. See e.g. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/elections/...

Or for a direct link to (a small) 1984 image: https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2016/11/01/front-pages...

Also maybe making the layout wider and more compact. And maybe, just maybe, picking 1-2 articles to have pictures.

You should probably also use a masonry layout like https://piccalil.li/blog/a-simple-masonry-like-composable-la...

jonahx
1d ago
I like it.

An interesting twist would be to somehow (not sure how) have a followup on the later importance of the news item, which was so worthy of news at that time. I'd guess the vast majority would be "not important by next year". You'd need a creative way to define and convey it, while still being accurate.

samdoesnothing
1d ago
clicks on home page

> FBI Agents, White Supremacist Leader Engage in Deadly Standoff

> Police Fire on Black Protesters in Pretoria Suburb; Deaths Reported

> Something about Jewish people

> Communism

I guess the more things change, the more they stay the same eh.

netsharc
1d ago
I remember seeing "Germany 9PM News 30 years ago" reporting about the quite accidental opening of the Berlin Wall.

This YouTube channel posts the news bulletin of 45 years ago, daily: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS7E58zLcws . For our American readers, it has the exoticism of 70's/80's Europe.

andrepd
1d ago
The local daily newspaper has always a small column, somewhere in the middle, with the front page title from 10, 20, 30,..., 90 years ago.

It's always "funny" because it's often something like

90 years ago: 4kg onion found at local farm

80 years ago: Allied troops suffer massive casualties in a German counter-attack at Messina

70 years ago: The ren faire opens tomorrow

almosthere
1d ago
I guess it makes sense to skip the hurricane
tacone
1d ago
Woha! Cool stuff. Would be fantastic to be able to configure the number of years back.
philsnow
1d ago
Also (unrelated to my knowledge): https://olduse.net/
narrator
19h ago
I've read political books from the 70s. Nothing has changed at all in politics since then. Just what was going on in San Francisco at the time took over the whole country.

The last big change was the death of Stalin. He was a genuine threat to the world order being so incredibly capable and ruthless. After that things settled back into the current long slide to "the end of history." Xi's China seems to be opening up a new era of great power conflicts.

The Israelis and the Palestinians have been doing awful shit to each other for 80 years. All the arguments are the same as 50 years ago. Little has changed. Boring.

crossroadsguy
15h ago
Weird to see two wildly different news related to India.

One about a famous Indian charlatan (a.k.a "guru"; the guru industry is most flourishing these days):

> Rajneesh Pleads Guilty to Sham Marriages, to Leave U.S. Immediately

> Indian guru Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh pleaded guilty Thursday to arranging sham marriages, agreeing to leave the United States immediately. In a plea bargain, Rajneesh received a suspended 10-year prison sentence and was fined $300,000, which includes $140,000 in prosecution costs.

and another about a well known (I guess across the world?) plane crash:

> Explosion Implicated in Air-India Jumbo Jet Crash

> India's director of air safety announced that an explosion in the cargo hold apparently caused the crash of an Air-India Jumbo jet last June, killing all 329 people aboard the flight from Canada to Bombay.

Note: this ^ was unseated as the deadliest act of aviation terrorism until 9/11 decades later.

beezle
12h ago
I remember Leon going overboard. Too bad this is not adjustable, fifty years ago (the 70s) would be more interesting. Certainly a lot more bank robberies, hijackings and both domestic and international terrorism. Not to mention all the political and econ stuff.
tptacek
1d ago
Semirelatedly: if you're in a major US metro, your library card (which, where I live, you get online and in real time) gets you the archives of a bunch of major newspapers, plus your local newspapers. The suburban Oak Park, IL take on Nazism pre-WW2 was wild to read (online, after a very brief search). If you haven't, I recommend taking the 10 minutes to figure out what you can search through your library system.
Agraillo
1d ago
> Apply a 40-year latency buffer. You get the intellectual stimulation of "Big Events" without the fog of war, because you know the world didn't end.

Sometimes, a sense of time and real social interactions comes from small reflections found in nonfiction books of that era. Not 40, but 50 years ago-taken from a nonfiction book unrelated to politics: Lost! by Thomas Thompson , written in 1975. [1]

> Though he had opposed the Vietnam war, he considered himself a political moderate, certainly not a knee-jerk liberal who cried “fascist” at everything attempted by Richard Nixon

Honestly, I’m not expecting anything good from Trump in the coming years, but this line genuinely gave me hope that American democracy is still not in danger.

[1] https://archive.org/details/lost0000thom_j3f3/page/124/mode/...

tehjoker
11h ago
This is really cool, but the tone about not feeling urgency is weird. These are monumental events worth studying and reviewing and reading these headlines even today feels like an adrenaline rush. All of this is still relevant for understanding our world.
maddmann
19h ago
Love it! Interesting to read these, and you must have a good prompt underneath
Forgeties79
1d ago
Given some of the ways we are still paying for the decisions of the Reagan administration to this day, this is not as reassuring as you make it out to be. If anything it just demonstrates how destructive a president and their administration can be and how the repercussions can be felt for decades.

Yeah many of the things people thought were a big deal turned out not to be, but plenty of things did…

andai
15h ago
This is super cool. Can you make one that does 140?
graemep
21h ago
It requires access to HTML canvass to generate shareable links. Why? Fingerprinting?
_dain_
22h ago
>The Senate on Thursday approved a nuclear cooperation agreement between the United States and China, allowing U.S. firms to provide China with materials and technology for its civilian nuclear power program. The Senate approved the agreement via a voice vote passage of a resolution with no debate before its passage. This approval happened amidst a long-running debate on a farm bill. The agreement had been shelved due to fears about China using technology to help other nations build atomic weapons. President Reagan's trip to China marked the initialing of the agreement last year.

china in many respects a better steward of american nuclear technology than america

kseistrup
19h ago
Related: On https://olduse.net/ you can replay Usenet News with a 40-year delay.
oezi
1d ago
Some years ago I had a similar thing happening to me based on a friend who would gift me his finished The Economist issues with usually a 1 or 2 week delay.

When you read the news even one week later you already realize which stories didn't stay in the public's interest or didn't develop further and you just skip them, while those which did allow you to actually read the first hand accounts without much of the spin added afterwards.

It also removed most of the urge for being angry or sensational about stuff because you realize many stories aren't as bad as it seems on the day they are published (The Economist as a weekly publication does a lot of filtering of course anyway due to their publishing schedule).

Aperocky
1d ago
There's one front page new that allude to events happening in December 7th and 8th despite dating to November 22nd.

I assume you select the stories automatically, but the time of the story might not be correct.

darkwater
1d ago
I like the idea vrry much, also because it brings up news from my childhood so it is cool to see them again now and compare with what I remember from back then. BUT, as others mentioned, you really need to publish the sources of each article.
evanjsx
1d ago
I would like to add an RSS/Atom feed for this into my Elfeed setup without context/proper tags so I can confuse myself.
matt3210
23h ago
Guys.. 40 years ago was the 80s :(
frizlab
1d ago
Cool concept!

I have a pet peeves to report: the dark vs. light mode switch should have three choices: light, dark and system. I just can’t believe how many sites don’t do that properly.

lexoj
20h ago
News cooldown
muzani
23h ago
40 years from now would be fun too. What would President Zuckerberg do?
technothrasher
20h ago
> wondered if there was a way to satisfy the urge to doomscroll without the anxiety.

Hmm, I like the idea. But interestingly, it immediately brought back my 40 year old anxieties.

tolerance
10h ago
There’s something eerie about this whole submission. From the preamble, the uninspired layout, the barely-functional page; all AI-tinted. It appears that the events that are displayed indeed happened but their accounts are virtually forged. Some of the details attributed to them cannot even be freely verified. [1]

The background that’s alleged to have inspired this may not have even taken place. And if it at all did then I reckon it ought to inspire further dread. You get the intellectual simulation of “Big Events” with as much fog present as is in news today! And the onset of the end begins to feel like a 40-year-long screaming halt to civilization as you knew it!

This bites!

[1]: Take this link to what I believe is the source for the story on The Order member Mark Franklin Jones’s testimony for example https://newspaperarchive.com/walla-walla-union-bulletin-nov-... (Hacker News does not allow images in comments so I can not point to the replication of the story on forty.news).

another_twist
23h ago
I will pay for this. Thank you.
npteljes
1d ago
>A reminder that urgency fades, context grows, and perspective is a habit.

That is such a great line. I also feel like 99% of the news is just noise, in terms of not adding anything actionable to our lives, nor is it growing our perspective.

In contrast, I really like Wikipedia articles about current events. They feel much more to the point than news articles.

captn3m0
1d ago
> India's director of air safety announced that an explosion in the cargo hold apparently caused the crash of an Air-India Jumbo jet last June, killing all 329 people aboard the flight from Canada to Bombay

I forgot what tab opened and I assumed that the report for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_171 was out. Took me a few minutes to realize this wasn't the same crash.

jvm___
1d ago
I like doing this with my local paper but from a hundred+ years ago.

It's funny to read that the electric street car opening day was delayed because they built the tracks at the wrong gauge for the street cars. Beaurocratic mismanagement in the 1890's.

lsllc
1d ago
It says "Weather: Partly cloudy, 72°F". Normally, I'd ask "where" (not here in New England!) ... but in this case, "when"? Is this the weather from 40 years ago also? (and if so ... I guess "where").
samyk
1d ago
sweet
inatreecrown2
1d ago
This is great! but in my opinion it needs the links to the original stories. Also a version without AI generation would be preferred by myself. I could be interesting to have I toggle button on the page to toggle on /off the AI stuff.
pryelluw
1d ago
Good idea and execution. Adding the metadata mentioned by others in the thread would improve. Otherwise this is a legit cool project.
NaOH
1d ago
Just a reminder that HN has a similar function with its 'past' link in the header/nav bar shown on most pages. For example, here is 15 years ago to the day:

https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2010-11-22

susiecambria
6h ago
Love this.

Any way to left justify the text? The full justification is a bear to read.

lukasm
20h ago
I'd be good to see a top news of the months in the past 100 years :)
fortran77
1d ago
40 years ago I was 2 years out of college so I remember these stories well. It may be interesting to do 24/40/60 years ago so people of different ages can get a similar effective experience.
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