Proxmox virtual environment 9.1 available

>(Healthcare in the US is nearly entirely Windows based).

This wasn't my experience in over a decade in the industry.

It's Windows dominant, but our environment was typically around a 70/30 split of Windows/Linux servers.

Cerner shops in particular are going to have a larger Linux footprint. Radiology, biomed, interface engines, and med records also tended to have quite a bit of nix infrastructure.

One thing that can be said is that containerization has basically zero penetration with any vendors in the space. Pretty much everyone is still doing a pets over cattle model in the industry.

I've used them professionally during 0.9 times (2008.) and it was already quite useful and very stable (all advertised features worked). 17 years looks pretty good to me, Proxmox will not go away (neither product or company)

HPE VM Essentials and Proxmox are just UI/wrappers/+ on top of kvm/virsh/libvirt for the virtualization side.

You can grow out of either by just moving to self hosted, or you can avoid both for the virtualization part if you don't care about the VMware like GUI if you are an automation focused company.

If we could do it 20 years ago once VT-x for production Oracle EBS instances for a smaller but publicly traded company with a IT team of 4, almost any midmarket enterprise could do it today, especially with modern tools.

It is culture and web-ui requirements and FUD that cause issues, not the underlying products that are stable today, but hidden from view.

Plenty of people describe Broadcom as "Publicly traded Private Equity"

So is $KKR:

> KKR & Co. Inc., also known as Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co., is an American global private equity and investment company.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KKR_%26_Co.

You can have a public company that invests in private companies, as opposed to investing in publicly listed companies (like $BRK/Buffett does (in addition to PE stuff)).

GPU passthrough works fine? I use that for transcoding in Jellyfin.

I thought you had to pay a fee to access their updates repository? It's been a while though so I may be mistaken.

> aspects are appealing (creating a vm/container via cli)

Nothing is stopping you from doing this with Proxmox, right?

Their site might be getting hugged, even the non-demo page is taking ages to load.

It has one[1] (optional). Proxmox has a shittier, but more featureful, web UI.

[1]: https://blog.simos.info/how-to-install-and-setup-the-incus-w...

I think the possibilities are huge with this area. I'd love to see more 'manager' layers that build on top of any 'cloud' system, even a local one, to give you a standard stack that is easy to move. Imagine something that lives at the hypervisor level (that you trust and was mature) taking control of your various cloud accounts to merge them and make it easy to migrate/leave one provider for another. I know that is the promise of terraform but we all want a good, consistent, interface to play with and then build the automation tools on top of. Maybe that is a good direction for proxmox? integrating with cloud providers in a seamless way. Anyway, a lot of promise in this area no matter the direction it takes.

Yup my primary Windows machine is a VM and after passing through all the relevant peripherals (GPU, USB) it’s pretty seamless and you’d never know.

Cool part is I needed a more powerful Linux shell than my regular servers (NUCs, etc.) for a one off project, so I spun up a VM on it and instantly had more than enough compute.

It enables Oracle-like behavior. Once you're locked in as commercial user they can do whatever they want.

Remember: Not all commercial users are FAANG rich. Counties/local municipalities count as commercial users, as an example.

Not really, that works if you want to have converged storage in your hypervisors, but most large VMWare deployments I've seen use external storage from remote arrays.

> The Proxmox answer to this is Ceph - https://ceph.io/en/

And how does Ceph/RBD work over Fibre Channel SANs? (Speaking as someone who is running Proxmox-Ceph (and at another gig did OpenStack-Ceph).)

Docker is mostly based on the same stuff that LXC uses under the hood.