Outdated Samsung handset linked to fatal emergency call failure in Australia
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An outdated Samsung handset was linked to a fatal emergency call failure in Australia, raising concerns about device reliability and emergency services.
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Emergency calling is supposed to work over any network (even without a SIM card inserted, much less an activated, registered, associated one), but only if the OS tries to dial it as an emergency call.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-22/samsung-mobile-device...
> Australian mobile operators and Samsung have identified a number of older mobile devices that will not correctly connect to an alternative mobile network to make Triple Zero calls when the customer’s primary mobile network is unavailable. These devices need to be updated or replaced to make sure they work reliably in an emergency.
Under the Government’s Emergency Service Call Determination, all mobile network operators are required to block devices from their networks that are not configured to access emergency call services. If your device is on the list of impacted devices, you will have 28 days from when we notify you to update the software or replace your device to stay connected to the Telstra network. After this time, the device will be blocked from accessing all Australian mobile networks.
Can I still use my phone on my home Wi-Fi after it is blocked?
Yes. Your phone can connect to a Wi-Fi network for data purposes only. However, blocked devices won’t be able to make or receive voice calls over Wi-Fi, including emergency calls, or send and receive SMS.
https://www.telstra.com.au/exchange/older-mobile-devices-cal...
It's fun to imagine a world where a lie like this could be a legal liability. I mean an actual court case, where evidence is brought and the claim is tested. "Is customer safety a higher priority than shareholder value?" and "why don't you support old devices" and then Samsung would need to produce internal evidence to try to make their case.
Nothing like that will ever happen, but I can dream.
literally the definition from there
> Puffery is undue or exaggerated praise
talking about yourself is not "praise"
I wonder if it can go as false advertizing, tho...
> Under the federal Emergency Service Call Determination, all operators must block handsets that can't complete Triple Zero calls if they remain unpatched for 28-35 days after the first warning – a rule TPG says it followed.
How would you even begin to pin down what “customer safety” means here? Isn’t it very much in the spirit of safety to say “if it can call at all, it must be able to place an emergency call; if it can’t place an emergency call on the current emergency calling scheme, you have to prohibit all other calling too”?
Plus, safety from unpatched devices on the customers’ network is safety too, right? Would it be “safer” to force the system update onto handsets without letting the subscriber decide?
Plus, just because something is a “priority” doesn’t mean you’re good at it…
As it is everyone and everything are overly careful of saying anything that might have legal implications. One outcome of that are new laws that are almost incomprehensible.
It plays everything below switch flawlessly. Even on switch it'll run literally everything I have thrown at it from BoTW to ToTK to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, albeit with poor performance. But lighter switch games like Super Smash Bros Ultimate or even the newer Super Mario Bros Wonder run flawlessly. Hollow Knight runs flawlessly.
I have an OLED steam deck, but I LOVE the portability of this phone. I play with it using the bsp d8 pro controller as well as the xbox series s controller using a magsafe case and a magsafe clamp that attaches to the controller. Phone works great for 3ds emulation as well.
Also the battery charges so quickly after a gaming session. It really is a wonderful gaming device.
The newest device that they say needs replacement (vs updating) is a Galaxy S7, released 2017, right? Which would be well outside the 5-year-extended-warranty period that seems to be the longest one they sell at your link, if I’m reading it right.
I think a 7 year old phone has no reason to not be suitable to 90% of what people want from a phone (in my case it was 100%). Frustrating to see them abandoned by manufacturers.
Wireless Telco: "Telstra also warned last month that older,
non-upgradeable Samsung devices could fail Triple Zero calls
Which can be less of a problem if there are full-digit emergency numbers that could be saved as a contact (preferably quick-dial).Auto-call routing can fail if you're on one side of a regional border but are connected to a cell on the other - and local EMS can't forward calls to the neighboring EMS (or just suck at it).
I used to live on a border and local EMS was 3-digit only. The only way to call the correct EMS was to call their non-emergency number and get forwarded - but only after getting scolded first for not calling the 3-digit number.
I think there's a lot more code running on SIM cards these days to reduce/prevent that. On my Canadian Rogers phone, when I do a network scan, I don't see the american networks at all, but then when I put in a foreign SIM, they light up. Similarly, it can take a while of driving into the US before it detaches from the Canadian network and finally hands over to the US.
It was actually an issue with my French SIM that was supposed to work in Canada and USA: it REALLY wanted to connect to the US networks, even though I was ~10 stories up in Toronto and very occasionally getting an SMS through once an hour to the US network.
https://hackaday.com/2025/11/19/why-samsung-phones-are-faili...
Handset Manufacturer: "We strongly encourage customers
to keep their mobile devices updated with the latest software"
Updates (routinely!) sabotage user experience (inc handset updates). Users have reasonably learned to mistrust manufacturer recommendations.When manufactures say "We strongly encourage customers to update", we hear "To juice short-term shareholder value, our product will suck more than ever".
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