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Nov 19, 2025 at 1:16 PM EST

Netherlands returns control of Nexperia to Chinese owner

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The Netherlands has returned control of Nexperia, a chipmaker, to its Chinese owner, sparking debate about the country's willingness to appease China and concerns about national security.

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lysace
4d ago
3 replies
> The order that gave the Netherlands powers to block or revise decisions at Nexperia was dropped as “a show of goodwill”

Why wouldn't CCP/Beijing just be emboldened by this? Why do the dutch feel the need to show goodwill towards CCP?

(Edit: I see a lot of turbulence with this comment. I wonder why people seem to think it's invalid. The Chinese government runs these strategic companies very closely. China is not a democracy. It is a de facto dictatorship run by the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party. Nothing of this really a controversial opinion.)

RAMJAC
4d ago
1 reply
$$$
lysace
4d ago
That is almost always the case, but please expand.
rikafurude21
4d ago
1 reply
"show of goodwill" is politician-speak for capitulation. Taking over Nexperia caused a chip shortage for the german auto industry, which was an unintended consequence that they couldnt handle.
cowl
4d ago
a bit tired of auto industry's "just in time" supply managment. they had the same problem when covid closed everything down and now 5 years later they still have not learned that they cant just order "enough for 1-2 months of production" and not more. It's not like the parts change in 2 months.
Barrin92
4d ago
1 reply
>Why do the dutch feel the need to show goodwill towards CCP?

They're not showing goodwill, they're desperate. Why did the Netherlands (read the US) think it's in any position to seize a company from China when the entire auto industry is dependent on Chinese chips?

I can't help but laugh at this, as a European even. China unlike our esteemed continent isn't going to have its businesses commandeered around by Washington, we should take a lesson in self-respect from them. It's also not on us to dictate what system of government they run their country on. Thankfully someone isn't putting up with Washington's crap.

throw310822
4d ago
Hell yes. Note that the Netherlands is also taking orders from the US about what countries their companies can sell to (ASML). No objections in that case.
mainecoder
4d ago
4 replies
Well the Chinese are powerful and without the help of the US the Netherlands can't do much. Additionally, the process of moving discrete semiconductor production to China is already underway. Production in Hamburg will stop sometime in late 2029 and the R&D center in Nijmegen, Delft will close done late 2028. The US should have helped the Netherlands but now it is over the Chinese won this battle and fairly easily they did not need to use much of the leverage that they had. The commentary by EU officials shows that they used a top down approach using the EU to pressure the Dutch.
lysace
4d ago
3 replies
Perhaps something could have been done via the EU. (No, I know, France/Italy/Spain/Germany are way too obsessed with their exports to PRC.)

Been there/done that - Sweden was unjustly bullied by China and got next to no support from EU. That was a mask off moment for some of us. It seems that for member states like Sweden and the Netherlands, we're supposed to just pay a lot of money in order to get toll-free access to the internal market.

Edit: I would welcome a split into EU North and EU South. Sort of like Aldi North and Aldi South.

EU North: UK (welcome back!), Norway (hello!), Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Netherlands, Estonia.

EU South: The other countries.

MrMorden
4d ago
The CPC leadership have plenty of personal assets stashed in the EU/UK. It would be easy enough to take them to the cleaners by prosecuting them for violating Chinese AML laws.
mainecoder
4d ago
What if I told you that China has more influence over the EU than it has over the Kamer der Staten-Generaal( the Dutch parliament), thus they are using the EU to pressure the dutch. The irony is that European Sovereignty is respected when all the countries of Europe are able to make their own sovereignty respected i.e. it is each of the individual states making their own sovereignty respected that actually elevates the sovereignty of Europe, the EU by pressuring, disregarding and relegating the sovereignty of the member states devalues the collective sovereignty of Europe. Additionally adversaries need only focus on having leverage over EU officials and the EU officials will do their bidding for them.
TitaRusell
4d ago
For the Netherlands the whole world is just a board game for local politics.

Seeing international media overthink this as some kind of deep strategy is mildly amusing.

goobatrooba
4d ago
They didn't use the EU, they put pressure on companies in other countries, notably Germany, which then did the rest.
mainecoder
4d ago
Additionally I forgot to mention the withholding of shipments from China of the finished product that served as a public(visible) leverage.
aldrich
4d ago
Are you sure this is right, and if so would you mind sharing a source for this?

According to the Nexperia 2024 annual report [1], they had just committed to _invest_ in the Hamburg site for their WBG/SiC/GaN production lines. Closure of the fab in Nijmegen was actually reported by NXP[2] not Nexperia - different companies.

[1] https://www.nexperia.com/dam/jcr:fc307e7e-e159-482c-b21b-0f9... [2] https://bits-chips.com/article/closure-of-nxps-nijmegen-fab-...

damn3849472
4d ago
2 replies
I must say I feel very vindicated by this. The seizure of control of the company just for appointing a CEO from China (the horror!) never smelled right to me, but everyone in the previous comment section on this tried to rationalize it with "There must be some legitimate national security reason for the Dutch to do this". Clearly not much of a threat for them to cave so quickly!
BDPW
4d ago
This wasn't because a Chinese CEO was appointed, it was because of his recent actions moving (apparantly critical) production away from the Netherlands. Where did you get this angle from?
t0mas88
4d ago
The CEO is still out, the court did that (based on a case brought by other officers of the company). It can't be reversed by the Dutch government.
brazukadev
4d ago
1 reply
The Dutch learning we are not in the XX century anymore.
dragonelite
4d ago
This is a lesson every western European nation should learn and learn them quickly or else they won't make it.
constantcrying
4d ago
Huge mistake going back on this. Europe needs to stop letting itself get pushed around. If the Netherlands isn't willing, then hopefully the EU is.

The EU desperately needs some leadership willing to stop the US and China from continuously pushing it around on every single issue. An independent Chip supply chain is an existential necessity for the EU.

MangoToupe
4d ago
They didn't exactly have any leverage
lenerdenator
4d ago
The Chinese continue to do state capitalism while the West is afraid to say "turnabout is fair play".
gethly
4d ago
FAFO. Id you don't have the ammo, don't play stupid games.
stpedgwdgfhgdd
4d ago
Headline should be:

The intervention by the Dutch government at the Nijmegen-based chipmaker Nexperia is being suspended.

markus_zhang
4d ago
Does it need legislation system to pass this or judges can block this somehow? It’s pay walled so not sure.
rzerowan
4d ago
I think the headline is incorrect , as far as the timeline goes there were TWO separate actions. The first was the Business Court removing the CEO and the Board, the second was the ministrial action to take over Nexperia NL business as part of the wartime measure.

These were all precipitated by the US BIS50+ ruling that threatend to sanction any Chinese subsidiary of any company on the Entity list , which increaed the list from something like 1500 to 30k companies overnight with Nexperia in the mix.

After the recent US-China talks and the suspension of the rule , the Dutch have in kind made movements to backtrack.

However at this point its only the Ministerial action that has been suspended i.e the SECOND action.

The FIRST action by the Business courts still remains in place , so the CEO/Board is still outed.

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