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Nov 19, 2025 at 4:30 PM EST

Gaming on Linux has never been more approachable

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josefritzishere
4d ago
1 reply
Never before has a successful software company worked so hard to reject the wants of their user base. Ai continues to be a solution seeking a problem.
baal80spam
4d ago
3 replies
C'mon. Microsoft is one of the top 3 companies in the world.
SirFatty
4d ago
1 reply
That couldn't have anything to do with being a near monopoly.. no sir.
recursive
4d ago
Two names for the same thing.
officeplant
4d ago
All three of the top three could vanish overnight, and a think a lot of us could just go on living without much issue from the "loss".
agumonkey
4d ago
but the windows brand is taking a serious beating

win10 was a great restart somehow but 11 transition was (and is) alienating many people

officeplant
4d ago
1 reply
In the 2000's I used to fear that not having windows at home would lead me to a lack of troubleshooting prowess when it comes to problems with windows at work.

Now I'm just glad I only have to suffer windows at work.

Gualdrapo
4d ago
2 replies
After some uni class at a conference room, back in 2006, there was a Linux hackathon/demo-y thingy outside where there were people showing off Compiz, the cube and that kind of stuff. Of course my noob ass was impressed with that - you can switch windows a 3d cube? That's amazing! That's the future! I want to try that!

So they were kind enough to give each one of us a Ubuntu 5.10 CD, one of those from back then when Canonical shipped free Ubuntu CDs to people around the world completely for free.

I can recall poking around that brown-y Gnome 2.x and feeling cozyness, like feeling at home. Everything felt transparent and humble and honest, from the desktop wallpaper, the icons and the typography to the tone the help pages were written. You could feel the ubuntu on it. It really felt like it was made for human beings.

The computer no longer felt like a dark box that only let you do things your license let you to do and if you dared to look at other direction, ever so slightly, things could go insanely wrong.

Granted, I didn't had internet at home back then (and wouldn't have it until late 2008 via a crappy 3G modem) so after nuking the Windows XP install and tried install it, also nuked the partition where I had all my uni docs and stuff and, defeated, had to go back to Windows via a pirate copy - until I had enough spare time to go learn what I did wrong and try again. Never went back ever since.

Things have changed a bit - Ubuntu is not what it what it used to be, I am not who I used to be (ended being a graphic designer) and not even the internet itself is not what it what it used to be - but I'm glad human creations like Linux still exist.

officeplant
3d ago
I really miss the old cozy days of Ubuntu as well. Ordered a set of CDs to pass out to friends in University sometime around 5.04 or 5.10 as well. I used to wish I could afford the ubuntu backpacks they sold at the time.
shmeeed
3d ago
Man, Compiz! Ubuntu on CDs! :') Thank you for activating some core memories.
seemaze
4d ago
7 replies
>So if anything goes wrong in my install, it’ll be a lot of forum-hopping and Discord searching to figure it all out

This is not inaccurate, however every time I've had to interface with either Microsoft or Adobe issues, both the professional and community support have been abysmal. Both community forums seem to incentivize engagement to the point where every response is 3+ hyperlinks deep to someone else's vaguely related post.

Maybe the linux forums self select for independent problem solvers..

ronsor
4d ago
7 replies
Community forums/support from big companies like Microsoft and Adobe tend to be completely useless. In most cases, all threads follow the same flow:

* Question with reasonable amount of detail.

* A reply from some "Community Helper" (Rank: Gold): "did you try reading the help files?"

* Another person with a "Staff" badge: "this isn't our department"

[Thread closed.]

ACCount37
4d ago
1 reply
At least it's not Qualcomm support forums.

"Talk to the sales about this functionality. [Thread closed]"

marcosdumay
4d ago
1 reply
I have some respect for the Oracle's honesty in putting stuff like "this bug can't be solved in the cheapest version of the software, buy the upgrade package X if you need it fixed" right on the forum.
jm4
4d ago
1 reply
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with this. Every enterprise OSS company operates like that. People paying for support and funding the project get to make requests. Anyone else can submit a PR or be happy with the free software. It’s a pretty good deal if you ask me.

Granted, Oracle charges a lot just to even use the software, but I still don’t think it’s unreasonable to limit certain types of requests for higher paying customers. Pay base price and you get to use the software, get updates and call tech support. Pay a premium and they prioritize bug fixes and features for you.

marcosdumay
4d ago
1 reply
The "no guarantee of fitness for a purpose" people put on the terms of software they sell is bullshit. There is something wrong with selling software with some functionality and then requiring customers to buy other pieces of software to make that functionality work.

That said, yes, they still handle that bit better than most large companies.

hiAndrewQuinn
3d ago
You could ask the company to remove that clause for you, but it may come with two or three extra zeroes at the end of the price tag because of the legal and support ramifications that come with it.

You could make such a clause illegal, but then all software would have to come with those two or three extra zeroes.

xmprt
4d ago
1 reply
Or

* Helper: This is a great suggestion which I'll flag for the team to add support (5 years ago)

egypturnash
4d ago
For what it’s worth the people who made that sort of post are probably vaguely annoyed at the lack of progress on this change, or on other ones on their own particular list of requests that have been moldering for half a decade while everyone spends three dev cycles adding half-assed AI bullshit features.
Jigsy
4d ago
1 reply
Or "Did you try rebooting?"
esafak
4d ago
The Microsoft Way (tm)
2muchcoffeeman
4d ago
1 reply
Many OpenSource forums and software are like this. None of the help is there to help you use the system. It’s there for you to gain some deep knowledge that you don’t care about.

But I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. some Linux distro needs to adopt some hardware line and partner with them to release a known good line of computers and polish the hell out of it. Like System 76 but nicer.

ryandrake
3d ago
Almost all community help forums (for commercial and open source software) suffer from what I like to call "HaveYouTrieditis". You post a question, and without any root cause analysis or even a description of why it might work, people start posting "Have you tried X?" and "Have you tried Y?" and "You should try Z." These kinds of responses are almost always unhelpful.

I'm asking for help because I don't want to just try random things.

robotnikman
4d ago
1 reply
Hah, this gave me a good laugh. There have been countless times where I have ran into this exact kind of situation, and it's not just limited to Microsoft and Adobe.
seemaze
4d ago
This is true, I chose to pick on MS and Adobe because the article closes with the admission that the author has backup Windows machines to run Adobe Creative Cloud in the 'inevitable' event that Linux has a problem.

For myself, those issues have been largely evitable; I think my longest current uptime on a running linux install is approaching 5 years..

fHr
4d ago
Lmao true.
ElijahLynn
4d ago
Nailed it.
thewebguyd
4d ago
2 replies
> either Microsoft or Adobe issues

Please run sfc /scannow closes topic

Both MS and Adobe's forums are a complete joke, LLMs give better support than their respective "communities."

gerdesj
4d ago
1 reply
... and reinstall Windows is offered as the next step after sfc /scannow.
KwanEsq
4d ago
1 reply
This is grossly unfair.

You've entirely omitted the `dism /cleanup-image /(scan|check|restore)-health` rain dance

gerdesj
4d ago
Blast. Soz.

I've been using Windows since v1 or perhaps 2 - we had a "CAD" workstation at school back in the day. It was a RM Nimbus with a 80186 (yes!) in it. I own a Commodore 64 from 1984ish (still have it - it now has USB).

I also recall using telnet to access the internet (gopher, WAIS etc) and being asked by my boss in 1994ish to investigate this www thing that was making waves.

I found it after a lot of navigation through menu systems. This is a discussion about the real differences by Sir TBL: https://www.w3.org/History/1992/WWW/FAQ/WAISandGopher.html

My report was: it looked pretty much the same as the rest, which shows exactly how prescient I was! To be honest, back then it was hard to tell what on earth was going on in a telnet session. At the time I could get at a sort of hyperlinked system on my telly (CEEFAX) and there were other similar systems around the world.

In hindsight, I think graphics cemented the www's dominance. I remember discovering the Mosaic browser and leaving telnet at around the time when a MS President (yes the speccied one) decided the web was not going anywhere), and thinking "fuck: that's the future".

seemaze
4d ago
3 replies
My biggest hope for LLM's was to finally be able to make sense of all the Microsoft documentation; the constant churn in product naming, different versions with varying levels of support and compatibility, the multitude of different API's to accomplish the same operation.. turns out the LLM's are just a confused as me :(
p1necone
4d ago
1 reply
Every single auth related MS library/api I've tried to use has had three different doc pages saying a slightly different version of a slightly different part of what I actually need to know, and then the actual needed information being buried in a stack overflow post somewhere (and that information being slightly different again from the official MS docs).
wincy
4d ago
Stack overflow was wrong then somehow ChatGPT knew what I was talking about when trying to set a dotnet environment variable in azure for an array in an app service. It has to be foo__0 not foo:0 so I broke production in a very nonobvious day for a day. At some point the foo__0 gets transliterated into foo:0 apparently?

The absolute worst location for this was, of course, the Azure or dotnet documentation sites. Cmon Microsoft you make both of these products surely this is a huge use case for your customers?

HugoTea
3d ago
Asking Bing AI anything to do with MS Purview, (which is an M365 product for a range of data security applications), will result in several answers, all wrong and outdated, pointing to documentation that is also wrong and outdated, pointing to other documentation that doesn't exist.
bigstrat2003
4d ago
To be fair, that's an improvement over the status quo. Generally they are far more confused than me.
soraminazuki
4d ago
2 replies
For sure. Despite its reputation, troubleshooting is much easier on Linux than on commercial OSes. It's not even close.
HugoTea
3d ago
Even just knowing that most of the time if I launch an application from the terminal it'll probably tell me what it's doing. For Windows, I'm looking for log files uhh... maybe %appdata% somewhere... maybe C:\Windows\Temp... maybe debugview... maybe a crash dump which is umm... somewhere...
CuriouslyC
3d ago
Beyond the sensibility of Unix compared to Windows, it turns out having the source code for everything and a fleet of AI agents makes it really straightforward to diagnose problems.
Affric
4d ago
1 reply
The worst online fora for support are for 'for profit' companies.

I had one where I was trying to get mongosh (or similar, I think they have had multiple shells) to change some print behavior I had multiple users coming in and giving me incorrect answers to a different question that was easily found in the docs and then begging me to mark the question as solved with them as the respondent and they were always written as though I was some sort of child-king that needed to be kow-towed to.

This kind of gamification of support fora incentivises responding rather than responding with correct answers.

Conversely Linux fora always have people who are at best polite and largely know their shit. They will help you hunt down the problem until the point where you hit that it's actually a firmware bug and you gain skills along the way.

seemaze
4d ago
The use of the Latin plural fora really resonates. It's like they are their own class of organism evolving in a digital terrarium.
SV_BubbleTime
4d ago
> Both community forums seem to incentivize engagement to the point where every response is 3+ hyperlinks deep to someone else's vaguely related post.

As a total sidenote, I do wonder when exactly stack exchange/overflow saw the writing on the wall with AI coding?

I don’t need to look for Denver 069 2004 post about MQTT request response options where someone pointed him to a now 404 link, I just talked to Claude about it and we came up with a solution directly to my problem, using my code as an example.

BeetleB
4d ago
I've set Kagi to blacklist sites like answers.microsoft.com for a reason.
thefz
3d ago
> and Discord searching

Yikes. This is the main issue of Discord, it's not publicly searchable.

tonymet
4d ago
2 replies
Any technical minds care to explain how the "agentic Windows" actually functions?

Based on the marketing it seems to run a sandboxed copilot instance that can impersonate the user to take actions, with their permission?

Something like "hey copilot install Putty"? and it does it?

I can relate to the reluctance to adopt AI features into the OS -- but I would also like to understand how they work and any utility they might provide.

thewebguyd
4d ago
1 reply
That's what I understand. It basically spins up a windows VM, you grant it access to specific files or folders, and it runs the actions in the VM.

From the MS support doc:

> "An agent workspace is a separate, contained space in Windows where you can grant agents access to your apps and files so they can complete tasks for you in the background while you continue to use your device. Each agent operates using its own account, distinct from your personal user account. This dedicated agent account establishes clear boundaries between agent activity and your own, enabling scoped authorization and runtime isolation. As a result, you can delegate tasks to agents while retaining full control, visibility into agent actions, and the ability to manage access at any time."

MS showed a little bit of something like it at Ignite yesterday, but for enterprise automations, the AI spun up a Windows 365 instance, did some stuff on the web, then disposed of it when it was done.

tonymet
4d ago
thanks for explaining that. I could see some value and also tremendous risk.

My concern is that the Windows Credential itself doesn’t have a ton of value (opening windows apps) but the browser cookie jar (e..g Edge or Chrome) , which the Credential unlocks, has tremendous value — and threats.

The core problem is lack of granularity in permissions. If you allow the agent to do browser activities as your user, you can’t control which cookie / scope it will take action on.

You might say “buy me chips” and it instead logs into your Fidelity account and buys $100k worth of stock.

Let’s see how they figure out the authorization model.

ACCount37
4d ago
"How it actually functions" is too much of a moving target. The book of "best practices for building AI agent functionality into your OS" is still being written. But "sandboxed envs for AI to do things in" is one approach MS is currently trying for.

I agree that a "good" implementation of agentic AI can have a lot of benefits, to casual users and power users both. But do I have any trust in Microsoft being the company to ship a "good" implementation? Hell no.

Windows has been getting more and more user hostile for years now, to casual users and power users both. If there's anyone at Microsoft who still cares about good UX, they sure don't have any decision-making power. And getting AI integration right is as much a UX issue as it is a foundation model issue or an integration hook issue.

unethical_ban
4d ago
5 replies
Anyone have experience with CachyOS or Bazzite here? I'm using Fedora KDE standard, never toyed with Arch distros, and don't know much about Bazzite/Kinoite. Regular Fedora seems pretty usable to me.

In any case, it's really great to see Linux overcoming its final major hurdle for a lot of technical people to dump Windows: Gaming compatibility.

ziml77
3d ago
I prefer CachyOS. It's basically an easy-to-use Arch distro. They package more than the default Arch repos contain which helps a bit in avoiding building stuff yourself out of AUR.

I tried Bazzite, but I'm just not a fan of how everything is installed as a flatpak. It might be more secure and allow for easy rollbacks and stuff, but it limits what apps are allowed to do by default. The main issue that caused for me is that the 1Password Firefox extension was not able to communicate with the main 1Password process. Maybe I could have tinkered with it using Flatseal, but that feels like such a hack.

cwbriscoe
4d ago
I've only played with CachyOS in a VM but I plan on installing it on my next computer build.
westpfelia
3d ago
if you want a gaming-fedora experience I use Nobaro and its pretty great!
chazfg
4d ago
I use cachyos. It's good as long as you're fine with some knob turning. I haven't had an issue granted I haven't played many things. Cities skylines 2 works for me so I can't complain about it
quasigod
4d ago
Both are great options, but if you're happy with Fedora, there's probably not a big reason to switch. Arch is a full rolling release, which requires you to be aware and ready to deal with any breaking changes each time you update your packages. On Fedora, you'll mostly only have to be ready for this on a new version release. If you want to always have the newest packages for everything and don't want to wait, then CachyOS is great. If you want to turn on auto updates and only think about changes when a major release drops, Fedora is a better pick.

Bazzite, being an atomic distro, is kind of hard to compare to. For basic use-cases like running just software available in Flathub, it is incredibly solid and easy to use. If I were choosing a Linux distro for a non-technical family member, I would go with an atomic Fedora distro and be completely confident they could get things done without breaking anything. However, if your needs are more advanced, you're going to need to be ready to relearn a lot (e.g. using containers for development), since atomic distros are a big paradigm shift from standard ones. This isn't a bad thing, just something to be ready for.

Jigsy
4d ago
4 replies
I was still using Windows 8.1 at the start of 2024 and was trying to slowly shift away to Linux at the time, but circumstances beyond my control ended up throwing me into the deep end a lot quicker than I expected.

I'm really enjoying Linux. It's one of those things that makes me somewhat passionate about computing for the first time in a long time.

switchbak
4d ago
5 replies
I'm one of those weird people that has been on Linux so long (wow, like over 2 decades now) I quite literally don't remember how to use Windows - even though I cut my teeth on it in the 90's. I dabble on the Mac to a moderate degree, but I'm just mostly comfortable on Linux, despite more BS than one would prefer. The benefits certainly outweigh the downsides (for most purposes), especially if you're technical enough to be self-sufficient.

When I see the adware monstrosity that Windows appears to have turned into, I'm actually quite shocked to see sharp folks using it. I must be missing something, like do they have cheat codes to make it usable?

If I wasn't super tech savvy, I can see why people would pay the absurd Mac tax - just throw money at the problem enough to make it go away.

wonger_
4d ago
1 reply
> When I see the adware monstrosity that Windows appears to have turned into, I'm actually quite shocked to see sharp folks using it. I must be missing something, like do they have cheat codes to make it usable?

There's at least a few factors:

- like boiling frogs, where things worsen gradually and you don't notice / hurt enough until it's too late

- accumulated bandaids over time to keep it bearable. e.g. knowing what settings to disable, perhaps having powershell scripts to debloat new machines, etc

- inertia. Hard to make big changes in general, even if they would help, because change is hard and usually costly

- forced to use Windows at work

tombert
4d ago
5 replies
I think MS Office is also singularly keeping people on Windows. That’s the only argument I don’t have a response to for getting my parents to switch.

I am confident that the lovely folks working on Wine are working as hard as possible to get maximal compatibility, and Wine (and Proton) is really a marvel of engineering at this point, but man I wish they would figure out how to get MS Office 2024 working.

To be clear, this is not a dig at the Wine people; I suspect MS Office is made purposefully difficult to get working on Wine, but man if they could get that working then there could be a huge exodus.

ashirviskas
4d ago
1 reply
Genuinely interested - why particularly MS Office 2024, and not any older version?
tombert
4d ago
It would have to just be a recent-ish version. I tried getting 2016 working as well and was unsuccessful.
Jigsy
4d ago
3 replies
Do people hate LibreOffice that much?
jackvalentine
4d ago
1 reply
I use linux full time on my home PCs, and I want Libre Office to work for me.

I _can’t_ get equivalent functionality of Excel’s tables (named range, but it dynamically expands and applies formulas as you add more data). If you’ve got excel handy, open it up select a range and press control-L to see it.

There are endless forum threads of Libre Office boosters misunderstanding what the feature does and offering the halfway there equivalent.

I want this to work, but everyone uses excel’s feature set slightly differently and something will be missing for everyone. It’s incredibly annoying.

tombert
4d ago
1 reply
What do you end up using at home?
jackvalentine
4d ago
1 reply
Most recent example, putting together a pretty basic car shopping spreadsheet I’ve just gotten pissed off and not done it.

Yes it’s petty, yes it means I just don’t do something easy. Yes in the end it’s only my problem.

I’ll probably just do it on excel for the web.

tombert
4d ago
1 reply
I don't use spreadsheets much anymore, and I end up just writing scripts for everything I would use Excel for. This isn't a brag, in fact it's sort of the opposite; I often miss the simplicity of Excel and I think for a lot of my scripts I would save time if I did them in in a spreadsheet.

One of these days, I should probably go through a tutorial series for LibreOffice and Star BASIC and properly learn it.

jackvalentine
4d ago
Anything ‘real’ I’ll do in R, but my wife is not super keen on that where we’re collaborating on something!
tombert
4d ago
My dad makes extremely liberal use of the VBA in Excel. LibreOffice does have an equivalent, but it's different enough to where he would be forced to port over large amounts of his code.

I think he could get over the different interface but I don't completely blame him for not wanting to redo all his work.

awill
3d ago
yes. It's terrible. I can't believe it's taken this long to still be awful. The mix of Java. The awful UI. If you're on Mac/Windows, you should buy Office. And if you're on Linux, you should use OnlyOffice, or Google Docs
MostlyStable
4d ago
2 replies
This is an extremely niche problem that is probably not a factor for the vast majority of people: but my organization uses a shared dropbox account for file storage (yes, yes I know). The linux dropbox app does not have the smart download feature where you can see all files and folders but don't need to have them local unless you request them. The only options are to either download the entire dropbox folder, or to selectively sync certain files and folders, and then only be able to see those files and folders.

Given that the dropbox is some 4TB, but I often need to access things that I didn't previously need access to, this is a bit of a deal breaker.

Root_Denied
4d ago
You said it in your first sentence: you know that Dropbox is not designed to function the way you're using it. That's a kind of tech debt that may (will?) bite you in the ass eventually. Linux being incompatible with the way you use Dropbox is just a symptom of poor infrastructure and security practices, though I understand that it's probably out of your hands to fix.
Gander5739
3d ago
Would some kind of rclone mount work with this?
snarfy
4d ago
1 reply
The online MS Office is pretty good.
tombert
4d ago
As far as I am aware, there is no support for the VBA on Office Online, which is a non-starter for my dad.
hyperionplays
4d ago
my solution was old laptop running Apollo and running moonlight on my Linux PC - use office that way. It's not ideal, but it works fine for me
ewzimm
3d ago
I'm also a long-time Linux user, but there are some things that still need Windows, so here are my cheat codes to make it usable:

O&O Shutup: https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

All the missing privacy switches you'd want. Run it after any updates.

PowerToys: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/

The real utilities you'll want to control your UI as a power user. Just autohide the taskbar and disable showing badges and flashing. It's a lost cause, and you can mostly just forget it exists. Use alt+space to launch things and keyboard or mouse shortcuts for window management. It's actually pretty good at mixing floating and tiling.

WSL: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install

I'm sure you know about it, but it works well even for most GUI apps these days, although it still doesn't support fractional scaling.

TulliusCicero
4d ago
Each time I've tried throwing Linux onto a new machine it's been a pain with drivers and compatibility. Things have slowly gotten better, but the last time I tried (using Mint) it still sucked big time.

I've used Linux for work (and school before that) for a long time, so I'm not intimidated by it, but it just feels like more effort than it's worth each time at home. I won't deny that Windows keeps getting more annoying though, so I'll probably give Linux an N-th try soon.

Edit: also, I'm a PC gamer, and I like having the option to play games like Fortnite or Valorant, even if I don't do so very often. But of course, I can solve that with dual booting if I really want to.

Jigsy
4d ago
> When I see the adware monstrosity that Windows appears to have turned into, I'm actually quite shocked to see sharp folks using it. I must be missing something, like do they have cheat codes to make it usable?

I think the sad reality is a lot of people simply don't care.

I specifically avoided Windows 10 because of the telemetry and the whole forced reboots for updates seem pretty annoying, and I didn't see it getting any better which is why I decided to try and move to Linux.

The only thing that held be back at the time was I was too ensconsed in my eight-year-old setup, so I needed to be able to do the same things on Linux; and I needed gaming to be viable. Which it thankfully is now to Proton.

And it's even more disgusting how Windows 11 has become considering it has the "we'll take screenshots of what you're doing every five seconds" stuff now. Sure, Microsoft claim they'll never see what people are doing, but what's stopping them from doing that in a future update?

At least people are slowly wising up to this; though a believe a good majority of new Linux users are because they don't want to create e-wase and replace a perfectly good computer just because Microsoft says "No."

Personally, I wish I'd swapped sooner.

makeitdouble
4d ago
> I must be missing something, like do they have cheat codes to make it usable?

Some of us are in the weird spots where no OS "just works" and will require inordinate amount of setup and adjustments anyway.

I recently did an arch and Ubuntu install for two machines, and spend half a day each to get something mildly viable, and still tweak things from time to time two weeks after. Sheer hardware support was only a third of the pain.

Back in the days macos also took me about the same time to setup the local system , configure input and disable/workaround the silly stuff. Windows is on par IMHO (stuff are sillier, but disabling them takes about the same effort). For any of those I end with a fully working *nix system/subsystem, so the end setup makes very little difference to me.

The huge difference is windows having exotic[0] form factor support turned to 11, where linux will be rougher.

[0] I only care about tablets, I wonder if Bazzite could help, I'll be giving it a try in. few months I think.

1bpp
4d ago
1 reply
Very curious what kept you on 8.1.
Jigsy
4d ago
1 reply
"If it ain't fixed, don't broke it."
spartanatreyu
4d ago
5 replies
But it was broke, security support ended 3 years ago.

I wouldn't use a condom that broke 3 years ago.

Jigsy
4d ago
1 reply
Support ended in January 2023...
sitzkrieg
4d ago
1 reply
who cares? it impacts nothing. windows updates are counter productive for a decade. "but security and zero days!!"

ok surely that firewall and home lab and ability to not download and run garbage is enough for someone on the supposed "hacker news" to handle. but no, we got heaps of people using "out of support" as some sort of argument whatsoever to upgrade to absolutely dogshit versions of windows. make it make sense

esseph
4d ago
1 reply
People get their identities stolen every day, and it is a super, super, super shitty process to go through depending on how deep it goes. It can change your life forever.

Having oldass OS and application versions make that a thousand times easier when you have so, so, so many CVEs you can exploit. And LLMs have been show to make this very trivial now.

All you need to do is click on the wrong pop-up, or the wrong link in your email, or tap something on your phone screen, or have a poorly configured (often from the factory) router, and the initial intrusion takes place. After that, an outbound encrypted session quickly gets setup, and congrats, now your network is acting as a residential proxy that can be sold to criminals that want to download CSAM from your IP, AI companies that will use your connection for scraping, and other elements that will either mine the data on your systems (your PII, logins, etc) and scrape your screens.

But if you don't care about your life becoming a living hell, then I can't make you.

This happens all the time, every day.

If you have a car, you maintain it. If you have a bike, you maintain it. Power tools? You maintain them. Your electronic devices also need to be maintained. They have access to your most sensitive data, and potentially private conversations.

mixmastamyk
4d ago
1 reply
If you're behind a NAT and have an evergreen browser, say FF with UBO, avoid email attachments, etc... it's not very risky.
esseph
4d ago
2 replies
Did you know a website can scan your lan through a browser now?

https://developer.chrome.com/blog/local-network-access

Did you know that a lot of current home router NAT implementations are currently broken, in particular for UDP traffic handling, and you can therefore spoof your way into the network?

https://www.armis.com/research/nat-slipstreaming-v2-0/

A lot of router vulnerabilities floating around out there.

Ever hear of UPnP/UPnP2? Did you know that applications can trigger your router to open inbound ports for you?

There have also been some 0 click exploits lately, those are fun. You don't have to do anything at all!

https://github.com/Defense-Intelligence-Agency/Zero-Click-Ex...

Yeah, you're still at risk, and moreso because you're not aware of how open you are.

mixmastamyk
4d ago
You're talking to a Slashdot refugee. Haven't ever had UPnP available. I don't use Chrome and do use OpenWRT with AdGuard, you insensitive clod. ;-)
agoodusername63
4d ago
Do you think that the average HN commenter has the same phishing risk as your grandpa?

They're fine.

badsectoracula
4d ago
1 reply
In practice this doesn't affect the overwhelming majority of people as they're either not going to be compromised (the most likely case) or, in the tiny chance they're compromised, they're not going to notice (in which case from their perspective it still "isn't broken").

It isn't like this is the original WinXP during the era where computers connected directly to the open internet and caught viruses just by existing, making computers groan and being very visible that something was wrong. Pretty much everyone is connected via a firewall and on top of that Windows has improved its security considerably over the years. And there are still security updates for browsers (the main vector for malware by far) that support Win8.x (e.g. Firefox ESR will be supporting Win8.x until next year and people have made Win7 and Win8 compatible builds for modern Chromium).

So it isn't surprising that for all intents and purposes it isn't broken, especially when the alternative is having to change to something that feels like downgrade in terms of UX. From a user's perspective it is a choice between the unlikely potential of something invisible perhaps happening (getting compromised) versus the absolute certainty of something very visible happening (having to get used to a worse UX). Considering Windows still tie security updates with everything else, it isn't surprising that people judge based on what they perceive the most.

Of course the best solution would be to switch to an OS where such choices are not necessary in the first place. I've been using Window Maker since early 2000s and the UI has remained the same since 1997 when WM was first made, aside from the occasional theme change (which is done only whenever i personally feel like it, i.e. is not forced on me) while at the same time i'm using the latest Linux kernel, C library, drivers, etc with all security fixes. I do not have any choice between having security fixes or using a GUI that i am comfortable with - i get to have both.

esseph
4d ago
It is VERY much a "compromised but don't know it, or it doesn't slow down things or break enough for them to notice" territory.

The state of security is /awful/ for general users.

But they also can't figure out how somebody keeps getting into their email account, why they get text messages that quickly disappear from history, or what these weird charges that keep showing up on their bank statement are...

bakugo
4d ago
Software is not "broken" just because it doesn't get updated with new spyware and adware every week. This is a misconception spread by companies like Microsoft.
otikik
3d ago
Just use it for gaming.
bigstrat2003
4d ago
Unfortunately, these days it's arguably safer to run an unsupported version of Windows. Microsoft is obsessed with putting adware and features that put your data at risk into the OS, so it's not clearly the best choice to stay current any more.
kwanbix
4d ago
Windows 8.1 in 2024? Why? You have Win10 which is miles better if you needed Windows.
masfoobar
3d ago
> but circumstances beyond my control ended up throwing me into the deep end a lot quicker than I expected

As a Linux user since 2006/7, I totally understand. I had atleast 1 computer at home that would dual-boot to either Windows or Linux. Regardless, I had to have a Windows system.

My reasons may not be the same as yourself - but I do still get stuck and HAVE to use Windows from time-to-time. It's not just for playing games or work related. It's sometimes a simple file I have to download, fill in and email back. The file is likely a Microsoft Excel or Word file and while OpenOffice/LibreOffice is good most of the time, there is bound to be something off.

Sometimes my kids will have homework (going back a few years now) and it would only work on Internet Explorer despite the fact Chrome was dominant back then.

(I remember, back in 2008, I would ensure the websites I created had decent support for Firefox as well as Internet Explorer, despite my boss telling me "everyone uses Internet Explorer" - that soon changed by 2010 with Chrome)

Thing is these problems are not the fault of Linux, or the Office suite, or the web browsers. The problem was the people using files specific to a brand, or focusing on specific web browser, etc. However, many people wont view it like that. In these scenarios.. Linux was the problem.

I always remember writing my Resumes for recruitment agencies. I would hand over it is 3 formats. ODT, PDF, and DOCX. I did this because I was not sure how the DOCX version would look on Microsoft Word. Of course, it looked great in Open/Libre Office.

I always encouraged the PDF version.

> I'm really enjoying Linux. It's one of those things that makes me somewhat passionate about computing for the first time in a long time.

100%!

andai
4d ago
2 replies
>I don't want to talk to my computer

I recently vibe coded a voice typing software (using Parakeet — your best bet is probably Handy though).

It works in my terminal. (I just changed my paste shortcut to Ctrl+V

I can now literally speak software into existence!

I made a thin wrapper around my llm() function I can pipe text into from Bash.

This allows me to make many other thin LLM wrappers, such as one that summarizes then contents of entire directories.

I have a thing called Jarvis inspired by a Twitter post, where I ask it to do anything in bash, and it just does that.

I wouldn't exactly say it's useful (I am unemployed) but I am kind of having my mind blown a little bit.

The future is already here, it's just not evenly distributed yet.

beepbooptheory
4d ago
1 reply
Please, really, I am sure we all get it. Who is even the audience for this kind of comment at this point? Can't we have one comment section that's about how Linux is cool and good and Windows sucks? Like when we were all still real nerds instead of product hypers?
andai
4d ago
1 reply
The point of my comment is that if you use AI in the CLI it can be very helpful, because they're really good with text and pretty bad with everything else.

The general rule here is that you use it for what it's good for it's actually really good.

The "typing into my terminal" is mostly for interacting with Claude Code. I wish that part worked on my phone.

Although I do use the voice typing tons for text chat, ironically.

beepbooptheory
3d ago
Ok! Great! Thanks.
multjoy
4d ago
3 replies
What lunatic thinks that voice is the best way to interface with a computer?
benjiro
4d ago
2 replies
Did pewdiepie not write a voice to text for his LLM setup?

Thing is, we can talk faster then most of us can type.

Voice + Programming is slow because of all the special symbols. But voice + vibe coding? The ability to tell your LLM to do tasks, while you focus on other parts of the code, without the need to switch tabs/windows.

What about "change the color green on this element (html page), where my mouse is pointing"... Annoying with keyboard if you need to switch windows, very possible with voice.

And LLMs are very forgiving for mistakes, unlike if you want to voice program where every symbol needs to be accurate.

People do not realize that programming as we know it, is going to change.

andai
4d ago
1 reply
>People do not realize that programming as we know it, is going to change.

I saw yesterday that I had been approaching software incorrectly. It feels futuristic because it's so fast, but it's still linear. One guy making one thing at a time (with some help from the computer).

But software can now be made so rapidly, that the bottleneck is actually curation. You can now generate a hundred ideas for software and a prototype for each one in the time it takes to make some coffee.

Going through all of it is the part that doesn't scale, it's bottlenecked by the individual. That's the reward function, right? Taste, discernment.

At this point software can grow itself, it can mutate, and it can combine with other software. I think building is entirely the wrong metaphor now.

I think a better metaphor would be a genetic algorithm. You try a bunch of stuff and see what works. Then you combine the best parts.

benjiro
3d ago
> You can now generate a hundred ideas for software and a prototype for each one in the time it takes to make some coffee.

Yep ... thinking the old way to make software is going to end.

In the past, we made a framework, then sold that framework for clients. But we always had the issue where client X wanted Y features, client Z want X features ... And over time the framework bloats, you get issues with features that may conflict between clients. Then you start to split the framework maybe for client Z because its too much different. Now your have issues when features or bug need to be fixed...

In todays LLM world, i see it more like custom software per client, with "instruction files"...

You make a custom framework for a client, with the AI writing it based upon a instruction file, that is supplemented by custom requirements for the client. Its written for that client and only that client.

The next client, same ... the next same. If a client sees a feature that they want, you instruct the LLM to update the framework for that client using again, a addendum instruction file.

If you instruction file was written correctly, bugs are going to be on the low end, and most clients do not need constant updates to their software.

A client wants to go to a different company and can not get the source files? That company needs the database files + the original design / analysts and the new company rebuild it again into a new version.

So ironically, we are going to, to a world where custom software is very normal, and cheap.

> I think a better metaphor would be a genetic algorithm. You try a bunch of stuff and see what works. Then you combine the best parts.

Yep, put that in practice last week.

I wrote a database in barely a week and half time, and was "slow" because i made like 5 different versions playing around with clustering, different parsers, more advanced each time (regex, token, lexer-ast) and tons of other features.

When i did not like a version, o LLM, rebuild it using my new updated instructions. O, i do not like the parser as it had issues, lets make a more advance one.

We are not talking toy DB ... full insert/update/delete, joins, CTE, Window function, SubQueries, Index's, alias, ... you name it, all working correctly. If i used my instruction file today, i can make you a custom DB in a day. Two if you need something custom. If somebody told me this 6 months ago, i call you crazy lol

Normally, when you build something, you spend days, weeks into it, especially if its advanced. Your reluctant to just tear it down and restart from zero. Or pull a important component out to rebuild from zero. Because sunk cost ... Now its just a half a day work, a day at worst, and you redid what will have taken you weeks or months. It really allows for a lot more experimenting, finding what fits better as time becomes different vs you on your little keyboard typing for ages, rebuilding, making tests, again and again. When a LLM does it 10, to 100 times faster.

For somebody who is a senior programmers, your actually the most easy to adapt and get the most out of LLMs (and ironically often the most resistant to change to using LLMs). Programmers that do not adapt to the new, are going to be left behind.

fragmede
4d ago
Wispr flow ftw
pjmlp
3d ago
All of us that don't want to write books in a tiny chat window.

AI chat windows is the COBOL joke on mankind.

luqtas
4d ago
disabled people? also no one needs 105% efficiency all the time when using a computer
AuthAuth
4d ago
6 replies
This is bad. New user going onto an arch distro with a ton of tweaks is worst case scenario for a smooth experience.

I'm sure cachyOS will work a treat out of the box, but i'm also sure that one day things will stop working and cascade into a distro hop or reinstall leaving a sour taste in the users mouth.

You do not need a "gaming" distro, all distros use the same software and you will be fine on ubuntu, fedora etc.

kevinfiol
4d ago
2 replies
Agreed. I'm surprised by the amount of Linux newcomers being directed toward these weird, specialized derivatives that have existed >2 years.
cosmic_cheese
4d ago
2 replies
It’s almost certainly driven by a desire for everything to work as expected out of the box.

Speciality derivatives come with attention to detail and purpose-fitting that often isn’t found in general purpose distros, like how Nobara has a system to auto-apply fixes for common problems or how Bazzite includes an overlay for game stats (framerate, etc). Rolling and bleeding edge distros have been popular because people want to use the latest hardware.

Can you get these things with a general purpose distro with older kernels? Sure, but the process varies depending on distro, hardware, use case, etc and isn’t necessarily accessible to many, even with the selection bias towards a technical mindset that comes with wanting to switch to Linux. It’s the same reason why Windows has been popular for so long and why Valve has seen outsized success with Linux: the fiddly bits have been minimized.

Major distros could pull in many of these users by sinking resources into that golden “out of the box” experience and aggressive hunting down and fixing of papercuts.

beeflet
4d ago
6 replies
okay but this should just be upstreamed into a real distro, we don't need 1000 distros that are all reimplementing the same thing
WD-42
4d ago
2 replies
Bazzite provides a Steam-OS gaming-centric interface out of the box. How are you going to upstream that? You think Debian stable is going to agree all of a sudden provide it's users a gaming console UI?
saint_yossarian
4d ago
1 reply
Isn't that just Steam's Big Picture mode?
__aru
4d ago
It's an entire login session, steam game mode runs BPM via the game scope compositor, no desktop is loaded in the background, etc. The Steam client also enables hardware controls not available in traditional BPM.

You can look up gamescope-session for more info.

Its something that I generally wouldn't expect on traditional mainstream distros.

theevilsharpie
4d ago
1 reply
Debian -- probably not, but Ubuntu has numerous variants whose primary purpose is providing a different desktop experience, and a SteamOS-like variant would fit in perfectly with that.
cosmic_cheese
3d ago
That’d still come with the limits brought by the old kernels Ubuntu ships.

Which as an aside, I think distros should advertise better. It must be awful to be sold on a distro only to find that it doesn’t support your newish hardware. A simple list of supported hardware linked on the features and download pages would suffice but a little executable tool that will tell you if your box’s hardware is supported would be even better.

p1necone
4d ago
1 reply
Things that are basic table stakes for PC gamers are unnecessary edge cases or outright seen as negatives by the average Gnome or Wayland maintainer.
lelanthran
4d ago
2 replies
> Things that are basic table stakes for PC gamers are unnecessary edge cases or outright seen as negatives by the average Gnome or Wayland maintainer.

What do you mean "PC Gamers"?

It's not limited to PC Gamers. The CAD program I use for PCB layout won't run with full functionality under Wayland because "The Developers Know Best".

So, having to choose between Wayland or delivering PCBs, guess what my choice was.

Gnome and Wayland are really user-hostile - if their vision doesn't align with what the majority of users want, its the users that are wrong, not the developers.

AuthAuth
4d ago
Its JUST gnome thats blocking that protocol.
wincy
4d ago
I remember what got me to reinstall Windows after running Ubuntu for a week or two several years ago was they switched from Xorg to Wayland and I literally couldn’t watch movies because they switched over without Wayland supporting this?

It was absolutely bonkers to me and soured me from Linux for years.

I’ve administered thousands of Linux boxes but it’s a totally different ball game.

cosmic_cheese
4d ago
There’s merit to that idea, but upstreaming is easier said than done. There’s a whole gauntlet of politics and bikeshedding to get past among other issues, which is why these things are separate distros in the first place.
DaSHacka
4d ago
Ideally, this would be the best solution, but what happens when the upstream distro packagers disagree with the vision of one of these downstream distro maintainers?
HumanOstrich
4d ago
They don't keep separate packages for fun. Many of the changes would not be accepted to an upstream.[1] That's usually why the derived distro exists in the first place. Imagine arguing that Ubuntu should just be upstreamed into Debian.

[1]: https://wiki.cachyos.org/cachyos_basic/why_cachyos/

wiseowise
3d ago
Why don’t you do it?
johnny22
4d ago
i don't have a problem recommending people use bazzite because of the nature of the whole system. It makes it harder for regular users to break it, while making it easy(er) to rollback.
brendyn
4d ago
To me, I find it a bit frustrating that Arch linux routinely has "manual intervention required" problems every single year where the intervention is just a single command that pacman could have just ran themselves if they so desired. Sometimes, they get a new developer and you have to manually install their keys first otherwise packages fail authentication. What can you do in the face of that except conclude they don't want things to "just work" and create a derivative in the hopes of making things just work.
galleywest200
4d ago
1 reply
Is it bad? SteamOS is an Arch based and extremely user friendly gaming-focused distro.
charlie-83
4d ago
1 reply
If all you want to do is play steam games then I'm sure steamOS is going to be the best experience possible. If you want to use it as a regular PC it probably works reasonably well but a user who doesn't want to use the terminal is more likely to run into a brick wall at some point (e.g. connecting to a printer or something). Something like Linux Mint is going to give an overall friendlier experience for someone new to Linux even if running steam games on it is slightly less friendly.
pelotron
4d ago
1 reply
Ironically connecting a new Brother printer was the most painless thing I've ever done on Linux, because I didn't do anything at all. Linux saw it appear on the network and it just worked.
Ferret7446
4d ago
New printers implement the print server themselves, which I assume is why CUPS driver support is being deprecated. Basically, they're all HTTP* servers so no driver/etc support is needed.
WD-42
4d ago
4 replies
If you want to game, then picking a "gaming distro" probably is the right choice.

Sure, you could use Fedora. But you need to know about enabling RPM Fusion, 32 bit repos for steam, etc. Now THAT is how you get someone to give up.

cwillu
4d ago
4 replies
It's two checkboxes in the gui to enable RPM Fusion, and then you click “Steam”. It's not that hard.
WD-42
4d ago
2 replies
So easy it requires a 140 lines of howto: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/rpmfusion-se...

It's easy for us. It's not clear how someone coming from windows would even know that they had to do this, much less do it.

AuthAuth
4d ago
1 reply
This is part of the installer now. New users will select this when setting the distro up
WD-42
4d ago
2 replies
That is amazing news! My biggest gripe with Fedora has always been that it is recommended to new users and then 80% of the time they have an Nvidia card and you end up with "Linux sucks if you use Nvidia" even though the official drivers work well if you install them correctly (i.e using your distro-provided method, not going to nvidia.com and downloading a file which is what most people coming from Windows will do).
ndiddy
4d ago
1 reply
I've used the official nVidia drivers, they definitely don't work well compared to AMD/Intel on Linux. They're usable and more or less stable, but on my computer I was seeing stuff like window contents freezing, graphics stuttering, screen tearing on video playback, the mouse cursor lagging when there was high CPU usage, etc. and it all went away when I switched to an AMD card. Everyone I've talked to has has the same experience: weird performance hiccups or glitches that go away as soon as you stop using nVidia.
arcfour
3d ago
1 reply
I've used the official Nvidia drivers on Linux for 5 years now and had excellent performance and few or no graphical glitches, with most issues coming early on. None within the last 2 years. Never experienced high CPU or freezing.

My cards have been a 2080, 3070 Ti, 4070M, and 4090. I could barely get an AMD card (6600 or something?) to work.

Now you have talked to someone who has not had that experience. And everyone I have talked to says they have had an experience either like mine, or like mine minus issues with AMD.

whatevaa
3d ago
Performance is good but there are a few caveats. Namely dx12 perf (identified and being worked on), vram limit stutter (doesn't page to system memory well), HDR enabling requiring basically a hack because Nvidia doesn't want to implement color managent wayland uses, and some other annoyances.
Vinnl
3d ago
The new installer isn't as good as Ubuntu's IMHO, but holy moly it's so much better than the old one. I recently tried installing Fedora Silverblue (which still has the old installer), and besides being terribly confusing, it also errored out consistently This led me to install regular Fedora and then convert it to Silverblue, so I got to compare the two installers. It's not even funny how much better it is.
cwillu
3d ago
1 reply
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/gaming/proton/ would be the relevant set of instructions that a user would find upon typing "fedora steam". And it's maybe ten lines of instruction or a couple pages of GUI, because they're including such steps as “scroll down” and “close the window”.
whatevaa
3d ago
Launch the terminal as first step. Yeah. That's why no good.
wiseowise
3d ago
1 reply
Tell me you don’t understand how gaming devices work.

Repeatedly after me: you boot, you buy a game, you play. That’s it.

cwillu
3d ago
“Repeat after me”, and then describes the normal flow after steam is installed, in a thread about choosing an operating system to install on bare hardware…
e-khadem
3d ago
1 reply
Usually this is not the main problem that people run into. Most often we take basics of terminal usage and config management for granted, and these are the hardest parts for new comers to learn, because they often don't know the conventions and the unwritten laws of the typical config file format, and once they get a weird error due to for example a non-existent config file or insufficient permissions and they search the exact error message, they get lost in deep, unrelated technical discussions of more obscure problems that real sys-admins encounter. They don't know that they should search for the basics, and along with weird cryptic error messages they can easily get stuck on a trivial tasks for hours ...

The other day I handed my Arch laptop to a friend (a mechanical engineer) who liked tinkering with computers, had a few papers on $RECENT_AI_TOPICS, and was considering moving to arch to learn Linux. I advised him to start with Ubuntu and then move to arch, but he insisted so I gave him a quick test.

Since he was more or less comfortable with reading manuals and searching, I asked him to install nginx on my laptop and change the configs to listen on 8080. He eventually succeeded ... after 70 minutes or so. He installed nginx and started the service pretty easily in a couple of minutes, but then he got stuck on editing the config files. First, he wasn't familiar with the terminal file editors so he had to learn one (he chose vim and went through vimtutor) and then he opened the config file without sudo, so he couldn't save the file. Then he thought that maybe he needed to stop nginx first but that didn't work. And then he started reading nginx manuals and tutorials and SE threads for like 30 minutes. Finally he decided to search the vim error directly and then found the issue.

I have often heard similar stories, and I think the main hurdle for most people is not "the hard part" or RTFM, but it's "the unwritten part" and the conventions.

cwillu
3d ago
GP wasn't making a point about hand-editing configuration files, or rather, was obliquely making an obsolete point; he might as well have been complaining about modelines in xorg.conf.
sockbot
4d ago
Itemized bill:

Chalk mark $1

Knowing where to put it $999

Root_Denied
4d ago
1 reply
NobaraOS is Fedora based and has solved a lot of these issues. They have a separate ISO to use if you have an Nvidia card that will handle all the akmods drivers for you for example.
theoldgreybeard
3d ago
It's also maintained by one guy. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the long term viability of the project.
theoldgreybeard
3d ago
My advice to anyone looking to make the switch is to just use Ubuntu until you're comfortable with the way a linux desktop works. The "gaming optimizations" for these enthusiast distros are marginal at best, usually just margin of error type stuff. Frankly, in my own tests gaming performance is just as good if not BETTER on Ubuntu in the general case than most other distros even the ones that market themselves as "optimized for gaming".

If you install something like Bazzite all of a sudden you're in the deep end of needing to learn how immutable distros work. It will turn people off that don't give a damn about this stuff.

Ubuntu is simple, easy to configure from the GUI, works with most things out of the box - including Steam - and is supported like a first-class citizen by the vast vast VAST majority of application developers.

preisschild
3d ago
Thats what Bazzite is for. (oci/bootc-based fedora for gaming)
Jigsy
4d ago
1 reply
I concur. I use Linux Mint and I have no problems with gaming.
peterashford
4d ago
I couldn't get Rocksmith 2014 running on Mint, which was a real PITA for me
skirmish
4d ago
1 reply
I tried to install CachyOS with KDE on my wife's new laptop (Lenovo Yoga) about 3 weeks ago. The version available was 2025-08-28 (still is, just checked), and it was crashing KDE all the time. Quick research told me that version had lots of KDE bugs that have been since fixed, yet no new release.

Maybe it's different on Nvidia (wife's laptop had AMD graphics), but I expect a very bumpy road ahead of him.

HumanOstrich
4d ago
1 reply
Most of the updates to CachyOS are delivered via packages. You don't need an entirely new version of the distro image that often.
skirmish
4d ago
1 reply
Right, I wanted to add that the journalist will be fine if they immediately update all packages but OTOH this is not what Windows users usually do.
pixelpoet
3d ago
I also recently got my FD, also switching to Linux, also chose CachyOS.

Worked great for a day or two but now updates aren't working because of some signing issue or something :|

Maybe I should switch to Fedora or Bazzite before getting too setup...

s1mplicissimus
4d ago
I've stopped recommending ubuntu for beginners by default, as the now only-wayland mode is beyond the level I can support
ErroneousBosh
4d ago
Over here we've been saying for years that gaming on Linux is a far better experience, with better framerates and better stability.

Just you're kind of SOL if you want to play anything that isn't based on some flavour of Quake or Unreal engine.

Well, that's different now. See? Told you. Faster, smoother, less crashy.

Oh, you want Microsoft Office? Yeah well you're probably using Office 365 these days anyway. Everything's in a browser. No, it looks just the same. Edge? It's less crashy in Linux, weirdly.

AutoCAD? Nah. Still SOL.

xedrac
4d ago
Welcome to the world of computing freedom.
pinewurst
4d ago
https://archive.ph/DNFkL
ge96
4d ago
I couldn't afford new computers in the past, would get some POS but putting Linux on it and a tiling manager gave me more bang for my buck

Started with Linux Mint then Debian/Ubuntu, tried some others too but ultimately just stuck with Ubuntu

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