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Nov 21, 2025 at 2:46 PM EST

Discontinuation of ARM Notebook with Snapdragon X Elite SoC

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ndiddy
2d ago
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It's a shame that this didn't end up going anywhere. When Qualcomm was doing their press stuff prior to the Snapdragon X launch, they said that they'd be putting equal effort into supporting both Windows and Linux. If anyone here is running Linux on a Snapdragon X laptop, I'd be curious to know what the experience is like today.

I will say that Intel has kind of made the original X Elite chips irrelevant with their Lunar Lake chips. They have similar performance/battery life, and run cool (so you can use the laptop on your lap or in bed without it overheating), but have full Linux support today and you don't have to deal with x86 emulation. If anyone needs a thin & light Linux laptop today, they're probably your best option. Personally, I get 10-14 hours of real usage (not manufacturer "offline video playback with the brightness turned all the way down" numbers) on my Vivobook S14 running Fedora KDE. In the future, it'll be interesting to see how Intel's upcoming Panther Lake chips compare to Snapdragon X2.

ori_b
2d ago
1 reply
Forget equal effort: Start off with hardware docs.
AlotOfReading
2d ago
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Equal effort is far more likely from Qualcomm than hardware docs. They don't even freely share docs with partners, and many important things are restricted even from their own engineers. I've seen military contractors less paranoid than QCOM.
zettabomb
2d ago
I'd have to say that full hardware documentation, even under NDA, is prerequisite to claim equal effort. The expectation on a desktop platform (that is, explicitly not mobile, like phones or tablets) is that development is mostly open for those who want to, and Qualcomm's business is sort of fundamentally counter to that. So either they're going to have to change those expectations (which I would prefer not to happen), provide more to manufacturers, or expect that their market performance will be poor.
IshKebab
2d ago
4 replies
Does anyone know why Linux laptop battery life is so bad? Is it a case of devices needing to be turned off that aren't? Poor CPU scheduling?
JoshTriplett
2d ago
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> Does anyone know why Linux laptop battery life is so bad?

It's extremely dependent on the hardware and driver quality. On ARM and contemporary x86 that's even more true, because (among other things) laptops suspend individual devices ("suspend-to-idle" or "S0ix" or "Modern Standby"), and any one device failing to suspend properly has a disproportionate impact.

That said, to a first approximation, this is a case where different people have wildly different experiences, and people who buy high-end well-supported hardware experience a completely different world than people who install Linux on whatever random hardware they have. For instance, Linux on a ThinkPad has excellent battery life, sometimes exceeding Windows.

gessha
2d ago
Are there any repositories of documented battery life behavior?
jcalvinowens
2d ago
Install powertop, the "tunables" tab has a list of system power saving settings you can toggle through the UI. I've seen them make a pretty big difference, but YMMV of course.
BadBadJellyBean
2d ago
My Dell XPS had pretty good battery life on linux. Probably better than on windows. But Dell sells the XPS wiht linux preinstalled. So I assume it has a lot to do with the drivers. Many notebooks have custom chips inside or some weird bios that works together with a windows program. I'd say laptops are more diverse than desktop PCs with of the shelve hardware.
WastedCucumber
2d ago
I ran into this problem on a Slimbook some years ago now. I found that my battery drained way too fast in standby, and I remember determining that this was some (relatively common) problem with sleep states, that some linux machines couldn't really enter/stay in a deeper sleep state, so my Slimbook's standby wasn't much of a standby at all.

But that's just one problem, I bet.

p0w3n3d
23h ago
I wonder what made it so hard? I thought that Snapdragon was already providing the Linux drivers? Anyone knows? Maybe those were not OpenSource?

My guess is that it's all the same as in Linux phones that they have large blobs of drivers given by the board producer but not being open, but then... Maybe we should invest time in microkernels? Maybe Linux is a dead end because of the monolithic architecture? Because I doubt big companies will change...

andrewaylett
2d ago
While I almost certainly wouldn't have done more than wished for one, it's a shame they're not getting any return for their effort.
exabrial
2d ago
I mean I feel like once one of the ARM chipmakers can lend a hand on the software side it should be a landslide.

Google and Samsung managed to make very successful Chromebooks together, but IIRC there was a bunch of back and forth to make the whole thing boot quickly and sip battery power.

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