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Chat Control is close to being adopted, and its worse

latexr
48 points
9 comments

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heated

Sentiment

negative

Category

politics

Key topics

Chat Control

EU Legislation

Privacy

Surveillance

Debate intensity80/100

The Chat Control legislation is nearing adoption in the EU, sparking outrage and concerns over its potential impact on anonymous communication and privacy, with commenters discussing ways to resist or circumvent the law.

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Discussion Activity

Moderate engagement

First comment

36m

Peak period

7

Day 1

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4.5

Comment distribution9 data points

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  1. 01Story posted

    11/13/2025, 12:01:05 AM

    6d ago

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  2. 02First comment

    11/13/2025, 12:36:38 AM

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  3. 03Peak activity

    7 comments in Day 1

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  4. 04Latest activity

    11/14/2025, 6:57:41 PM

    4d ago

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Discussion (9 comments)
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digitalPhonix
6d ago
1 reply
I couldn’t find the text of it (unsurprising if it’s being rushed through), but how does it “outlaw anonymous communication”?

That sounds even more terrifying than the original chat control! How is this the back door “compromise”?

iamnothere
6d ago
It is here: https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2025/11/2025-11-06_Cou...

It is worse than the original.

kaboomshebang
6d ago
2 replies
This makes me feel pissed off. I used to be Pro EU, now I'm not so sure. (Suddenly I understand Trump voters.)
latexr
5d ago
1 reply
I’m mad too, but the solution is not to want to vote for someone even worse.
dmitrygr
4d ago
>> This makes me feel pissed off. I used to be Pro EU, now I'm not so sure. (Suddenly I understand Trump voters.)

> I’m mad too, but the solution is not to want to vote for someone even worse.

When trump signs a bill to outlaw encryption, let's talk. Until then, ON THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE trump is very much not "someone even worse"

FranzFerdiNaN
4d ago
The EU itself is mostly an admittedly flawed but good idea. The problem is that too many voters keep going for authoritarianism because of racism and hate.
no_chat_control
5d ago
https://fightchatcontrol.eu/
iamnothere
6d ago
So much for it being “dropped” I guess. It looks like they are going to force this through one way or another, and the only option is to resist by any means possible.

I am in the US, but I’ll do my best to build and promote tools and services that EU citizens can use to circumvent this.

Bender
5d ago
What Now?

- Keep your mainstream big platform accounts for discovery and casual conversations. Feed big platforms giga-tons of crap data to give the AI indigestion and diarrhea.

- Set up open source platforms to tinker on, share with small groups of friends. Focus on cattle vs kittens keeping servers ephemeral and mostly-stateless. Keep data encrypted and backed up to secure locations, logs in tmpfs or /dev/null. Practice live migrations and secure wipes of old nodes.

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