Apple to focus on 'quality and underlying performance' with iOS 27 next year
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Mac OS has become a richly productive bug farm, lately.
I wonder if they'll ever get around to actually reading their bug reports, though...
I use Firefox as my browser across all devices so I can just share tabs via my account, and if I want to share text or files then LocalSend works just fine in lieu of Airdrop.
I am totally annoyed by the animations in Apple Notes. The icons have considerable increased in size and everything screams what a mess to me: the shadow as part of "the experience", partly rounded icons which talk more space than rectangles, hidden functions or multi function menus.
There is absolutely no spirit in this update. The animations show no variations, always the same most boring ones (the s curve in Apple Notes).
Lately I found die settings menu in Safari especially disastrous, the tab menu icons when pressed look so ridiculous, I lost words.
Oh, give it time. We thought the same when they went flat, too.
I'm not defending Apple here, but have you seen how people feel about Windows 11?
I don't mind the Liquid Glass UI so much as what's happened to the macOS UX :-/
> The changes introduced by Windows Aero encompassed many elements of the Windows interface, with the introduction of a new visual style with an emphasis on animation, glass, and translucency; interface guidelines for phrasing and tone of instructions and other text in applications were available.
Megapixels.
I hope the phone get's even more boring and uninspired next go around. Apple can afford to go back to the 'it just works' motto.
If Apple dropped the Mac, how many of those former Mac users would also drop the iPhone? (I would.)
And of course, Mac is the platform for writing iPhone apps. Indeed, Mac is the platform that Apple engineers use to write the iPhone operating system, which was based upon and shares a lot of code with the Mac operating system.
The Mac is the lynchpin that holds the entire ecosystem together.
I would drop every device I have currently (myself and my family) which is too many to admit publicly
macOS is a major part of keeping iPhone users on iPhones, and in turn keeping Apple users buying subscriptions.
When you look at the most profitable demographics in the market (e.g. “computers over $1000”) Apple has a huge percentage of that market in both revenue and marketshare.
2) 10.6.0 included significant under-the-hood improvements but also brought some truly nasty new bugs and was significantly buggier than 10.5.8, released a few weeks prior
3) 10.6 received 23 months of subsequent minor bug fix updates, up to 10.6.8 v1.1
We'd need two Snow Leopards in a row just to match Snow Leopard purely in development time, but now there's a lot more preexisting technical debt built up after well over a decade of annual major releases.
I was on Ventura until I very recently upgraded to Sequoia. Two little undocumented changes I noticed:
1) My Thunderbolt 4 NVMe enclosure was unusable in Ventura and would cause Finder to hang. It's usable now.
2) 6Ghz wi-fi was finally working for my M2 MacBook Pro.
Also, ditch liquid glass on MacOS. That sh t is so Windows 7. It wasn't cool then and it isn't cool now. What the hell are you guys doing? Copying Microsoft now?
I’ll probably ditch Mac if this degradation continues.
Maybe I’m lucky but I run macOS daily without any problems.
(Yes, there’s fit/finish issues in the UI - but no issues with stability)
My biggest complaint is with Firefox - it works fine on my older Mac, but crashes on Tahao and only works after a system restart.
26.1 fixed a lot of the buggy/laggy feeling too.
There’s an in-between abomination — Catalyst based apps from/by Apple (quickly migrated from iOS to macOS). Reminders, Notes and others are downright unnavigable and unusable with a keyboard and are so, so terrible in their UX. It’s a shame that Apple hasn’t spent any effort in fixing those and making them true native macOS apps.
Battery life is horrendous (despite extensive tuning). The speakers are complete crap (despite using Easy Effects). Fans get loud sometimes because, well, it's x86_64.
It's a shame, because even though the Apple Silicon CPU is faster on paper, the same task flies on the Thinkpad compared to the Mac. And of course the Thinkpad's keyboard is fantastic.
Honestly the one thing I simply can't look past are the speakers. I work from home so battery life isn't a massive issue for me. Fans I can look past. But I simply cannot stand listening to music or watch a YouTube video on it, they are SO bad.
Well, I will stay on windows with wsl and macos in the foreseeable future.
Goddamit.
Millions are having problems for years so it's not just me, honestly thought i was "getting old" but no incredible amount of threads and now this on YT with 1 mil views:
Thank you for this video, it really made me feel that I’m not alone in this struggle of typing.
Just typing out this comment has been infuriating.
I thought it was just me!
Even all the text selection stuff stinks.
Honestly I’m about to disable Apple Intelligence. I don’t know what’s going on there.
What is everyone working on over at apple?
Anyone checked if this still happens (it typed that as “halles” which isn’t even a word!) even after disabling Apple Intelligence?
The workaround for this bug was to lock and unlock the screen. Not the worst thing, but it indicated a shocking lack of give-a-fuck in Cupertino. This is one of the most basic flows, which they shipped in a broken state.
How is it not? :-/
I brought a Pro Max last year, after owning a perfectly fine 13 mini for years, and just my luck the latest iOS seems to make everything worse.
Face detection. Navigating photos. Unresponsive Apps. Confusing as f*ck UI.
No idea why I spent so much money on a Pro phone, should of stuck with the 13 mini and refused to upgrade the OS.
what was it Steve Jobs said?
"If you were a product person at IBM or Xerox, so you make a better copier or a better computer — so what? When you have a monopoly market share, the company is not any more successful. So the people that can make the company more successful are sales and marketing people. And they end up running the companies. And the product people get driven out of the decision-making forums. And the companies forget what it means to make great products. Sort of the product sensibility and the product genius that brought them to that monopolistic position gets rotted out by people running these companies who have no conception of a good product versus a bad product."
On my Apple Watch I have regularly occurring hiccups where the whole UI freezes, especially when I go into training mode to pick an exercise. On my iPhone, after the liquid glass update, I get a noticeable slowdown and stuttering FPS when moving from the widgets screen to the first page and in other parts of UI. I'm afraid to upgrade my MacBook to the new OS, so I don't.
For the hardware, i get it, but the OS doesnt really drive sales, and if you have the pressure of releasing new amazing features every year then maintenance and bugs get left behind, and you end up in the situation that we have now…
I've heard it said that there is manager culture, push to ship new features to pad resumes, etc. So you have these teams building new projects/products and some of it is a miss. There's an escalation path from outside and inside that allows for radars to be filed for major issues. I remember tracking one when I got the original iPhone SE they had a bug in the bluetooth stack that made handsfree calls sound all full of static for the first release or two after launch. We all know bluetooth is a pain and they handled fixing this well. I assume logically with most projects you expect to field lots of bugs early on at launch and then you take resources off once it's been live for a bit and the problem reports slow down. Then it's just debt or not important and how does it ever get handled?
With Apple, there are little ongoing bugs I would like to file, I have submitted on-device feedbacks before but it feels like sending into a black hole. Here is a simple bug, very easy to describe: Accessibility > Audio & Visual > Flash for Alerts (enable it). It flashes the camera light when you get a notification so you can visually see alerts while the phone is silent and not in a pocket. This works on its own, but if you are using the camera light as flashlight and people begin to message you, it will flash and turn the flashlight off. It should remember the state of the flashlight before it flashes but it doesn't and turns it off each time. This is not a new regression.
I guess I write this comment because we have these large companies lots of resources, some unique divisions like Google's Project Zero; but are there any non-project tied teams inside these companies that deal specifically with 'tech debt' and company internal interoperability issues and can pad resumes with that? We knew US gov had 18F, thinking of a division that fixes issues between the teams that might not usually talk.
The most dysfunctional large company at this time seems to be Microsoft and I could write a whole series on how the most basic things are broken (stuff like Share icon for photos only trying to share using Windows Mail and not Outlook). Or the fact that IMAP was broken on the Android Outlook client from August until the past week (it's almost fixed can delete mail again, just can't move it automatically to trash, has to be permanently deleted). And you just feel the different divisions across platforms don't talk to each other and the consumer slop is separate from the paying business stuff and that's split between the Outlook and chromium Outlook, and that's all a totally different thing than the Sharepoint/Teams stuff. But also the mandate of god says Copilot must be everywhere and if you are using classic outlook on monthly channel you must accept your lord and savior Copilot into your Outlook life and there's not a current way to turn it off (officially).
With Apple and quality: They do appear to still be doing 'the good stuff under the hood' most don't pay attention to. I look at their Air, people confused as to who it's made for, fashion item or whatever I heard in another thread. But I am laser focused on connectivity/modem stuff, before I had the RCS issue the last time I walked into an Apple store was to look at the 16e, not to buy it (I have a 15 pro) but because I'm happy to see another modem vendor on the market that might know what they are doing. The Air is an evolution of this, it will eventually go into flagships when it's ready. This is the good stuff under the hood, besides the increased margin for Apple at not having to pay Qualcomm... there is room for improvement. I guess sub-6 performance is looking much better. I know something that was noticed awhile back is Mediatek seems to have much better latency than Qualcomm modems, but they don't really have flagship modems in handsets in the US market, just in AP stuff like the T-Mobile Home Internet (where I've had units with both Qualcomm and Mediatek and can say the latter wins). Would really want to know how Apple compares to it.
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