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Nov 22, 2025 at 7:46 PM EST

A monopoly ISP refuses to fix upstream infrastructure

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paulatreides
1d ago
1 reply
> Xfinity is the only gigabit provider in this area. No competition. No alternatives. I can’t leave. So they don’t have to care.

many such cases...

1over137
1d ago
4 replies
"only gigabit provider". Like those grow on trees. Lots of people would love to have a fraction of that speed.
fsckboy
1d ago
1 reply
everybody has a fraction of that speed
bmacho
16h ago
Actually bandwidth if not 0 then is almost always irrational: rac number of bits / irrac time in seconds.
AngryData
1d ago
1 reply
Its not like it is some monumental task. Fiber is cheaper than copper, and we managed to lay copper telephone lines and power lines to everybody. Where I live right now didn't even have DSL available at any point in time, the local telecomm didn't want to spend money on replacing some of the poorly functioning 60 year old copper lines despite everyone clamoring for any kind of wired connection. And yet a startup ISP managed to not only lay down gigabit direct to home fiber to the entire county in under 2 years, but they provide it for significantly cheaper than people's wireless/mobile internet. And they are still expanding across the entire state so are obviously earning money from it.

Existing telecomms have zero excuses after being given billions of dollars to do this after seeing startup fiber companies manage to do it profitably after the fact in even in some of the lowest density areas east of the Mississippi.

PaulHoule
12h ago
1 reply
It reminds of this book

https://www.amazon.com/Zero-Sum-Society-Distribution-Possibi...

which has a case study of US Steel used lobbying as a weapon against the rest of us by getting protectionism against steel imports because they felt entitled to keep making steel with pre-WWII open health furnaces that had been paid for long ago but produced more expensive and lower quality steel than international competitors who were using basic oxygen, electric arc and other modern processes. In a market economy they would have been forced to go out of business or invest in new equipment —- that is, make a disinvestment that they didn’t want to make (that’s why they call it “capital(ism)”), it’s like the capital makes decisions on its own.

Circa 1980 almost all futuristic thinkers thought the copper network was going to be ripped out to replace it with fiber because fiber was clearly better in the long term, but what we did get was much more complex and path dependent because in favorable locations cable TV was a great business that built out infrastructure which could be repurposed, DSL was a good solution for crowded little countries like South Korea and the UK, etc. Like those open hearth furnaces, bad infrastructure that exists drives out good infrastructure that hasn’t been built yet.

gsf_emergency_6
6h ago
>makes decisions on its own

Somehow, society making decisions on its own is a Stephen King story.. maybe direct democrats should just not use that name that always triggers. How about civilianism?

https://jacobin.com/2025/11/mamdani-chavez-torres-municipal-...

(Contexts: upcoming Donald-Zohran meeting, Venezuela. Etc)

ashirviskas
1d ago
1 reply
Shut up, 1gbps up/down in 2025 should be a basic human right.

I can't believe the things you learned to justify in US

koakuma-chan
1d ago
1 reply
You are absolutely right. There should be zero tolerance towards ISPs that provide anything less than one gigabit per second.
aydyn
22h ago
1 reply
This but unironically.
koakuma-chan
13h ago
I was serious.
yxhuvud
23h ago
Once an area has its shit in order regulatory-wise: yes. Here my house org will upgrade from 1- to 10-gbit next month, mostly cause it also bumps the wifi generation to the latest and the cost difference was neglible. Previous hardware was end of life , so we had to change stuff regardless.
sidewndr46
1d ago
5 replies
This has to be the weirdest post I've seen in a while? Cable infrastructure in the US is awful. I can't imagine a scenario where it would be reliable.
vedmed
1d ago
Yeah its pretty weird I created a website just to write this article just so I could make this post. I'm so frustrated with these outages :(
nativeit
1d ago
I don’t think it was the author’s intent to shock us by the state of CATV infrastructure.
nativeit
1d ago
There’s not much to break, honestly, and cable TV is still fairly popular outside of techy circles, but mostly it’s still the only option for broadband in a large portion of the US. I’ve been on Spectrum for several years, and it’s been largely trouble-free. I’m in a rural area of North Carolina, but near enough to Charlotte that they don’t have the entire region locked down. That said, Windstream/Kinetic is just now rolling out fiber in my area (should launch in the next few months), Spectrum has always been the only option for land-based broadband. I’ll switch to Kinetic for the symmetric upload speed, rather than any specific reliability problems we’ve experienced.

I’m sure these market conditions are common in most of the country, but without the moderating climate we have, so I imagine it’s much more susceptible to damage by freezing temperatures and natural disasters.

But the article is decrying the monopolies, and the bad incentives that they inevitably create, rather than attempting to highlight the poor state of telecommunications infrastructure.

kotaKat
21h ago
Easy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_1998_North_American_ic...

A lot of the Northeast US that was impacted has fairly 'fresh' copper infrastructure in the last 20 years.

... but in reality, yeah. The outdoor plant does not get taken care of well (in general), there's only so many field techs to go around to be able to re-balance an entire RF system and its nodes.

toast0
1d ago
I've had pretty good luck everywhere I had cable internet, not much in the way of regular outages. Obviously a limited sample, I haven't lived too many places, but at least living where toast0 has lived is a scenario where cable internet is reliable. Not my current address though, cause Comcast won't service it.

Certainly, there's problems in some part of the network, and getting past level 1 tech support is hard. Physical security is pretty much unlikely. That said, I don't think those boxes are going to take much abuse to open even if they are locked.

nativeit
1d ago
1 reply
I’ve dealt with this at least twice on behalf of clients. In both cases, another provider entering the market was the only thing that made a difference. By that point, they’d already burned all the good will they had in the area, so maybe they would have fixed things with competition, but I wouldn’t know, my clients got on the waitlist to jump ship the absolute nanosecond they hear about it.
TimTheTinker
1d ago
3 replies
Makes me wonder if Starlink is an option for OP. It's more expensive than most ISPs, but probably less than 3x what most people pay.
MobiusHorizons
1d ago
1 reply
The op showed starlink as a comparison. It was one of several 100Mbit options. Comcast is the only service above the 100Mbit level at 1200Mbit advertised .
benjojo12
23h ago
1 reply
100Mbit seems fine? I obviously don't have the full picture for what the OP is doing with their line on a day-to-day basis, but, saying that you're entirely out of options when there is an option that is just slower is a little odd

(I do get that Starlink is also quite expensive if it is not your only serious choice)

Aachen
16h ago
Given that they have multi-minute outages multiple times per day and they're still not switching to one of the 100mbps options, I think it's a safe assumption that they really do need that speed more than the reliability

I'm a heavy user myself and would be perfectly pleased with a symmetric 100/100 connection, but would even rather make due with 20/20 if that meant no regular outages, so I would agree with you but OP's needs seem specific

willis936
20h ago
Starlink service is blacked out if you're within 20 miles of a radiotelescope that uses nearby bands as starlink. Maybe that's considered an edge case, but I can promise you Comcast has a lot of neglected infrastructure in those areas. I have receipts to prove that service dropouts are from outside the demarc but I had to waste a lot of time getting a tech to come out and say "looks fine to me".
jliptzin
14h ago
It's not more expensive, I am paying $40 / month for 100 Mbit, which is fine for me.
bpbp-mango
1d ago
1 reply
I'd start my own ISP for the area
cube00
1d ago
It's possible if you have the startup cash https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20726906
altairprime
1d ago
3 replies
If OP is reading this, try downgrading to a Docsis 3.0 modem. Docsis 3.1 in Comcast’s deployed infrastructure has severe repeating outage issues when there’s a cracked line somewhere allowing RF leakage into it, that cause a partial 3.1 reset but have no effect on 3.0.
HumanOstrich
1d ago
1 reply
According to the article, it happens on a very specific set of intervals. That's not an RF issue. Downgrading/replacing the device isn't a solution.
altairprime
23h ago
2 replies
There was an irregularly but often transmitting radio antenna tower fifty feet from my home, and the outage duration when an outage occurred was precisely the same each time, because Docsis is very carefully specified in how it starts up. (Don’t remember the duration, sorry.) The outage interval varied based on antenna usage; if OP is suffering a similar circuit break, a continuous transmitter nearby could certainly cause continuous outages at the regular interval “renegotiating, success, assigned channel collision” loop.
HumanOstrich
23h ago
1 reply
The outages mostly happened at very specific times during the hour (:29 and :44) for 17 months. It just doesn't add up to being RF interference, especially from a radio tower. But if OP has a radio tower 50 feet from their home, I guess we could consider it.

How did you know when the radio tower was transmitting?

altairprime
22h ago
1 reply
The value here is “triage experiment: try an older modem”. If it reveals something, now they’re not stuck. If it fails in the same way, no knowledge is gained.
HumanOstrich
20h ago
According to the article (again), he was using his own Xfinity-approved modem. I doubt his neighbor was also using the same model.

There's no point in performing random experiments if you've already ruled out those causes in some way. It would also require either renting a modem temporarily or buying one.

immibis
20h ago
1 reply
If that's a ham antenna, go talk to the guy and he might know some tricks for either shielding your connection (doubt that's possible though), pressuring Comcast, or else at least making an effort to avoid frequencies that interfere with your internet.
altairprime
11h ago
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mh-
1d ago
1 reply
I think that's probably why they downgraded his speed from 1200 to 700, in an attempt to avoid using the more sensitive channels.
altairprime
23h ago
I did not find provisioning speed to have any effect whatsoever on the channels or encoding negotiated by the multiple modems I swapped into the circuit; whether 50, 125, or 1000mbit. It would be logical to do that; perhaps now they do?
razingeden
1d ago
1 reply
i touched on this in a longer comment in this thread because i think that docsis 3.0 goes up to 900-1002mhz

if downgrading to docsis 3.0 (or downgrading to 500/700mb) “fixed” your issue, you probably have a 5-1000mhz splitter thats not just a rf splitter but also, a filter and its JUST leaky enough to allow 1002mhz through.

or maybe the modems happy negotiating down to 900mhz.

but maybe not quite enough for 1008-1100+ required by docsis 3.1

there will be anecdotal reports of a 5-1000mhz splitter “working just fine” maybe that ones a REALLY leaky filter thats also allowing 1008mhz.

or also a case of negotiating a lower channel…

gigabit speed and docsis 3.0 are about the threshold for the 5-1000mhz

problems would manifest with docsis 3.1, gigabit speed(maybe) and then almost guaranteed at 1.2 gig service+

this idea of “sensitive channels” is extremely close to nailing it

splitters fail as well. they’ll bleed through AND filter bands theyre not supposed to. but i didnt seize on that or inside wiring for OP because “the neighbor gets it too”

im on a gigabit implementation that has to have +/- 1100mhz , and my own woes uncovered an 800mhz splitter inside a wallplate. it would lock. it would even run at gig somehow. just not very well. its a 5-2500mhz splitter now. a 5-1200mhz would also do (for now)

everyone on your tap should be using multiplexed signals, and you should have a good 300mhz or so to play with and lock onto. but if every single one of you gets kneecapped at +/- 1000mhz, then theres a really congested 100mhz band and another 100-200mhz thats open for everyone but you cant lock on to it.

altairprime
1d ago
In my case, one of the main loops had a cable break under a roadway, in a place on the loop that was wholly Comcast infra rather than subscriber. You’re not wrong about the general case! But for that reason, they basically stopped acknowledging the issue to me at all, never followed up on support calls ever again, and it took them maybe three years to close that roadway overnight and fix their cable. (I was able to manifest the issue at a service speed of 125mbps when capacity up to 1+ gbps was available, but of course that low limit didn’t stop the modems from negotiating whatever full-width max-QAM links they could.)

Diagnostics mastery note: logically ruling out a readily testable possibility is only (somewhat) logical when one hasn’t exhausted all other possibilities. Displeasing and successful diagnostic tests that ought not to differentiate but do are how one exposes issues hiding in the blind spots of other experts. (If they hadn’t explicitly said ‘I have no ideas left’ in as many words, I probably wouldn’t have posted at all.) Here is an idea they hadn’t openly said they considered. The reasons this idea might or might not pan out are still interesting to me! TIL! But it was a beautiful and consumer-accessible scalpel of diagnostic and earned me a walkthrough of the signal contamination specifics by the senior truck tech who showed up to help the lesser truck tech, so perhaps it’ll help another.

bombcar
1d ago
1 reply
I had a similar problem with a DSL line ages ago and what finally fixed it was to upgrade to business-class service, complain to business support, and they sent a tech who eventually found what it was (a tester on the line painted over so as to nearly be invisible). After it was fixed I was able to downgrade back to consumer DSL.
joecool1029
1d ago
My most recent interaction with comcast business was earlier this year, end of contract came up.

I finally replaced the SB6183 with a Hitron CODA56 to be ready for midsplit upgrade (greatly improved upload speeds which was showing up in advertising on the same road family business is on). The way their sales works now is terrible, they chain you to a specific rep and that rep has to release you if you want to talk to anyone else. It took me something like 4 reps to finally get one that would sell me what I wanted, a no-term contract at list price without the firewall/spyware crap. No promotion requested. Just the 300mbps tier for that site. Nobody anywhere knew when midsplit upgrades would be complete. Thankfully about 2 months later it was done and that location went from 300/20 to 300/300.

Their business tier was better some years ago, now if I have a tech come out they try to charge me every time because I dared to buy my own modems. Thankfully it’s been pretty reliable, better than the power utility (especially since comcast will literally setup honda inverter gens to keep their nodes up in extended outages).

stego-tech
1d ago
2 replies
I sympathize with the author. I remain on Charter’s shitlist to this day because I had a very similar issue about twenty years ago, except our connection cut out entirely after ~10MB of data had downloaded in a continuous stream, and the cable modem had to wait for the line to become available again. No amount of technical documentation, logs, traceroutes, equipment swaps, or anything on my end would convince them it was a problem with their infrastructure.

So, exasperated, I filed a complaint with the FCC. A week later, it got fixed along with an apology, no truck roll needed.

I miss when the government had teeth and used it against companies, man.

hypercube33
18h ago
One period they were "moving tv totally digitally" and as part of that my node basically ran out of bandwidth 3pm to 9am every day for two months. I lucked out because I was on business and knew my sales person and happened to live near their backup head office in the country but it took a tech driving over refusing to enter my house showing me this on his tablet and me driving to the office at 450pm super mad to finally get one of the engineers.

They basically refunded 3 months and said good luck nothing will be done until the move was completed.

jonhohle
1d ago
I recently had to do the same thing with Cox. It’s funny how a customer is responsible for repair fees until the FCC gets involved and all of a sudden they figure out the necessary work outside the house.
matt_heimer
1d ago
1 reply
I found that logging into the cable modem itself and getting the signal levels and modem event logs helps. The poster seems to just be logging IP reachability. You have to keep repeating that modem logs show the problem is outside of my house until they send a technician. Then you hope the tech knows what he is doing enough to verify the issue and call the right person.

It took about 2 months and 5 visits to get my outages fixed. I also had to get some of my neighbors to report the outages.

vedmed
1d ago
2 replies
Hey thanks I didn't realize I could do that. Updated the article with the docsis log.

Bunch of

UCD invalid or channel unusable and SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing

razingeden
1d ago
2 replies
gotta ask, just because i went through this with spectrum recently.

have you grabbed an extension cord and tried connecting the modem outside at the drop for awhile?

i hear you that your neighbor has the same issue. but if youre in. say a development by the same builder, or were all part of a comcast upgrade at roughly the same time ..

and well… you both recently upgraded to 1.2(?) because that would be the latter case

after my gig upgrade and a few tech visits i ended up finding a splitter that only goes up to 800mhz or so (if that) inside a wallplate.

TLDR:

you might have a 5-1000mhz splitter. thats widely used by comcast still.

MORE:

OFDM is 1008mhz or so and you wouldnt notice the problem under, or maybe just UP TO gigabyte speeds (eg: downgrading to 500mb might mysteriously “fix” it).

but you WILL notice this at 1.2gb.

spectrum is future proofing and using 5-2500mhz splitters

ANECODTAL:

my modem locked with the 800mhz splitter, but it dropped , cycled and had horrible upload speeds.

techs never tried or thought of this . the final boss tech took photos and even took the splitter back to show his boss. i guess multiple units had tickets after the gig upgrade and they had an “aha” moment.

TECHNICAL:

i would expect something more like multiplexing errors in this situation. forgive me because im 20 years out of the game (was an RF/install tech on analog CATV , and cable modems when those were brand new to Charter) and had to look it up but i think docsis 3.1 is dependent on 957–1151 MHz or 1008–1152 MHz

its that 1008+mhz where now your splitter is acting like a 5-1000mhz filter.

its not perfect like okay maybe 4-1003mhz gets through the filter maybe even more permissive if its a cheap one. but thats NOT a clean signal for that frequency band its more like bleed-through.

sort of similar to traps (the little barrels theyd screw onto your line to block you from getting pay channels in the olden days) and how you STILL could sort of see and hear. a little bit of what was going on on cinemax at 3am and at least get the IDEA. :>

toast0
1d ago
1 reply
This seems pretty likely, but shouldn't a tech roll have included sampling the signal strength/snr at these frequencies? Or would the tech tools be likely to be on old frequencies too?
razingeden
1d ago
1 reply
the SNR and the lock would be perfect at the drop using tech meter.

or, plugging your modem into your dmarc/outside box for a little bit would also confirm or deny this

toast0
1d ago
Tech should plug the meter into where the modem is too, though, right? And if the SNR looks good at the dmarc and not at the modem, there's your problem... Tech can peace out if you don't have inside line coverage.
vedmed
1d ago
1 reply
I had an old 15+ year old line when I moved in. Helped my neighbor cut a few hundred of his monthly by getting xfinity and they ran a brand new drop for him. Then just recently they "upgraded" my line. But I don't have any splitter or filter its just a connector with a ground that attaches my home cable to the drop cable.
razingeden
1d ago
the reason id suggested connecting your modem at the outside drop would also cover any and all inside wiring issues. and that could be anything. frayed end. a nail through it. moisture.

i think my inside wiring was done no earlier than 1991 , but maybe redone once since then and it looked pretty good but i found this on the back of a wallplate , just yesterday:

https://ibb.co/5XjkJ57J

- expires in 6 months

the easiest thing to do is check it at the box and then if nothing else thats ammo for dealing with customer service “look, i connected at the drop and have the same issue its NOT my inside wiring.”

everything from that point back is their problem and they owe you bill credits until its fixed, so get the proof and go back with it.

in my case my modem worked perfectly at the drop :D so i unfortunately had some digging to do

its not practical to suggest someone on the internet go ripping open all their wall plates and checking every inch of inside wire or maybe even running a new one. unless it passes the drop test, and then yeah, thats what needs to be done.

but plugging into the drop will 100% prove whose problem this is. youre california so thats also good ammo for a PUC complaint, that you did that and proved its not your inside wiring and now theyre refusing to deal with it. maybe that will get it to the right person on comcasts end faster when they review it.

ddtaylor
1d ago
What used to be very useful was to get the signal to noise ratio. When I had problems it was because they had installed amplifiers at various parts of the line and it eventually added up to a problem with amplifying too much noise.
martinald
1d ago
2 replies
Not definite imo to be some sort of cron job. More likely there is some sort of electromagnetic interference happening at that time (a classic one used to be cheap Christmas decoration lights which would be on a timer and cause chaos).

This person needs to get the actual DOCSIS diagnostic logs from the modem to figure out what's going on with the physical line, not just ping tests or speed tests.

Also, why wouldn't starlink be an alternative?

HumanOstrich
1d ago
1 reply
I doubt it's RF interference from something like christmas lights at those specific intervals for 17 months. Also, the author did provide DOCSIS diagnostic logs.

Even if it is RF interference, the problem is at the node level (because his neighbor has the same issues at the same times). So it's not his responsibility to figure out the problem for Xfinity.

Starlink is not an equivalent solution. It's much slower than his requirements, for one.

martinald
18h ago
2 replies
Did he update the post since I commented? I'm sure they weren't there.

I'm pretty convinced it is RF interference. (Nearly) all DOCSIS interference is at node level, it's a shared system so any RF is going to knock out neighbouring properties.

He also could do with pasting the SNR and power levels for each DOCSIS channel :).

Fair enough if the author really needs 1gig, but I think it's pushing to say it's a monopoly based on that. 99% of residential users would not really notice 300mbit starlink vs 1gig (and starlink is likely to reach gig speeds in the next year or so).

HumanOstrich
15h ago
1 reply
Starlink is not a substitute for fixed broadband. It might be adequate for most use cases, but it's not equivalent and it never will be. Your "99%" figure is nonsense. More than 1% of people will see the difference in download speeds between 1Gbps and 300Mbps. You realize some apps and games show you information about latency and bandwidth?

Also, just because they advertise "up to 305Mbps" doesn't mean everyone is getting that. A friend of mine with Starlink in the midwest gets about 100Mbps during off-hours. See <https://www.ookla.com/articles/starlink-us-performance-2025> - median speeds are typically less than 150Mbps.

Starlink also costs about 2x-4x as much per Mbps as 1Gbps service (at least where I am). I doubt they're going to suddenly offer 1Gbps speeds in the next year without changing their pricing. They'll add a new, more expensive plan.

Even 1Gbps Starlink (which would be more than 3x the current max speeds) is going to have other differences such as increased latency (they mention 30-40ms in one place, 25-100ms in another), more jitter, and lost signal sometimes during bad weather. Starlink also uses CGNAT which eliminates a bunch of use cases and introduces its own problems with certain apps and games.

They've had issues with capacity before where they wouldn't accept signups for some areas. Adding capacity involves launching more satellites.

Starlink isn't the ultimate solution to everyone's Internet access problems.

martinald
13h ago
1 reply
When did I say that it was? I'm just saying it's hard to claim Comcast has a true monopoly anywhere now starlink exists. There's loads of issues with starlink, but it is a very viable alternative and is a big problem for incumbent US telcos as it caps what they can charge (there are a lot of telcos charging $100/month+ in rural areas for awful 2-8mbit/s DSL).

It's massively changed the market dynamics. And I suspect Elon will push the pricing down further and further.

HumanOstrich
10h ago
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phil21
5h ago
Upgrading from 300mbps to 1.5gbps was instantly noticeable to me. I was also skeptical of it being so.

The microbursts to pull down a full chonky 50MB modern web page actually do matter when you are on modern hardware capable of rendering it faster than the link speed. This was not always the case.

Going from 1.5gbps to 2.5gbps was not though.

vlovich123
1d ago
The author explains in the article they’re looking for gigabit service and Comcast is the only player in the area.
tfvlrue
1d ago
6 replies
I had a similar problem with a different ISP, Optimum, in Northern NJ. It wasn't as regular as the author's problem -- my cable modem would desync intermittently throughout the day despite the signal strength numbers being in spec.

I replaced everything downstream of the drop from the street, all new wiring inside, a new modem/router/etc. All signs pointed to the problem being outside the house. I went so far as to connect an oscilloscope to the coax line to look for patterns. I discovered that if I physically manipulated a particular section of the line from the pole, a huge interference pattern appeared and the modem's connection dropped. Eventually I could reproduce the connection loss fairly easily.

Convincing the ISP to actually do anything about it was much harder. Despite first-hand evidence that the coax from the pole needed to be replaced, their tech support insisted that someone had to come into the house to inspect the interior wiring. No amount of insistence on my part would convince them that it was not necessary. The building was a vacation home, and this was during peak COVID time, so there was basically no chance of that happening. The appointment came with threats of service charges if they sent a tech and could not enter the building or reproduce the problem, so I cancelled it.

Coincidentally, I happened to discover that the mayor of the town had started a hotline specifically for reporting home Internet problems in the town. So I sent in a message to that service, not really expecting anything to come of it. But shortly after I get a phone call from some higher-up department of the ISP. They had a truck out within a few days to replace the drop -- with no one home -- and the connection was rock solid ever since.

This experience taught me that ISPs often have distinct support channels that governmental departments use to contact them. I think they called it the "executive support team" or something along those lines. Basically, if you can get a message in that way, it's possible to circumvent the useless consumer-level support. Long story short, I think escalating this through the local or state level government may be the author's best shot at getting this resolved.

joezydeco
1d ago
4 replies
These days you get a lot better result from any company if you take a few minutes, find the email of a few VPs in the target company, and write the execs directly.

Exec fowards the email to the correct underling with "WTF?" added to it. You get phone calls the next day.

masfuerte
18h ago
2 replies
Or send an actual letter in the post to the customer service department. I guess approximately nobody does this nowadays but it works very well for me.
op00to
16h ago
Send the letter via overnight mail - or better yet, FedEx. Mail goes to a mail room which may or may not be screened. FedEx seems far more “important”, and make it to the executive’s assistant’s desk who is far more likely to act on it.
Nextgrid
15h ago
Registered mail with proof of delivery works and is scary for them because it's a legally-admissible paper trail and proof of you trying to resolve the problem in good faith, which will complicate any of their attempts to collect money out of you down the line should you choose to stop paying (which you should also do if they don't address the issue in a reasonable timeframe).
op00to
16h ago
1 reply
Executive Email Carpet Bombing no longer works well, even with a cogent, calm, clear explanation of the issue and what you want them to do. At best it gets sent to a customer service manager, but in my experience it often gets sent to a black hole.
Marsymars
4h ago
Half the execs at my company have declared email bankruptcy, and even if you work with them and they're expecting an email from you, you have to follow up in person or text them to tell them to check their email for the email they asked you to send them.
qingcharles
15h ago
1 reply
This can work. I have mixed results these days, usually down to issues of finding the right email addresses. I've been using SignalHire, but I need to use one with a deeper, more accurate database.
Workaccount2
14h ago
Yeah, the trick is just getting to the other side of the "support wall". They go to great lengths to keep customers from wasting all their time (which frankly would indeed happen), but if you can get through (err, around) with a legitimate issue, the person on the other side usually cares about getting it fixed.
decasia
19h ago
This reminds me exactly of "The Art of Turboing"[1]

[1] https://www.macwhiz.com/blog/art-of-turboing/

ericrallen
1d ago
3 replies
ISPs also have different levels of service for different entities, and seem to just barely care about you as a customer.

An ISP (like one that starts with the first letter of the alphabet and ends with a common abbreviation for an explosive compound) might not think it’s worth coming out and marking their fiber lines when you call the city’s 811 number to mark utilities before digging for a project, like a fence.

If that fence ends up cutting the fiber line when digging a post, the company installing the fence can submit a ticket through a different portal than you as an actual residential customer of the ISP can, and that ticket probably gets responded to well before your attempts to contact them and request a call back because they are always experiencing a high volume of calls.

They’ll never admit any negligence on their part for refusing to mark utility lines, and you just have to remember where they buried the new ones, if they ever came back out to bury them instead of just leaving them aboive ground and flailing around.

Sometimes they even try to charge you for fixing the fiber line.

epcoa
15h ago
3 replies
It’s AT&T not ATNT. You could have just said it outright, what is the point of the obscurity? It’s not funny if that’s what you were going for.
bavell
15h ago
Yeah pretty unnecessary, who/what are you trying to protect here?
ThePowerOfFuet
9h ago
As for me, it made me chuckle.
ryandrake
11h ago
Yea, seriously. These riddles to avoid naming companies are so bizarre. Why do people do this? Does OP really think the AT&T thug squad is going to come to his house to break his kneecaps because he posted about them on HN?
delfinom
15h ago
>ISPs also have different levels of service for different entities, and seem to just barely care about you as a customer.

Hah, we were independent and now part of a megacorp. The local ISP (basically a Optimum subsidiary) still does not care. Their ONT is still a old model that uses....volatile RAM for configuration, and if (and they do) fail to replace the backup batteries, then the configuration is wiped on power interruptions.

consp
1d ago
> and seem to just barely care about you as a customer.

But they do care about their monopoly (if they have a legal one). My approach is now to get the municipal monopoly contract void since they claim my home is "available" but they've been saying that for over four years now. They have the requirement to connect everyone within reasonable time. (note: not in the US but the same issues apply elsewhere as well).

fortran77
1d ago
2 replies
I’m wondering how you used an oscilloscope to diagnose the ~1ghz bandwidth DOCSIS signals on broadband cable. I have a (expensive!) gigahertz bandwidth scope but I’m not sure what I’d look for on it if I connected it to my cable.
tfvlrue
4h ago
> how you used an oscilloscope to diagnose the ~1ghz bandwidth DOCSIS signals on broadband cable

I should clarify that I didn't really do any _true_ diagnostic with the scope. Simply as an attempt to gather as much data as possible, I connected the oscilloscope to see what the signals looked like. And, because, why not. I had driven 2+ hours to get there, might as well try everything! I didn't expect it to actually be able to decode the signals. I was surprised to find a correlation between the modem losing sync and a visually-distinct pattern appearing on the scope though.

ted_dunning
1d ago
The high capacity of an internet link does not translate directly into high bandwidth signals in the analog domain. The DOCSIS standard includes modulation patterns as high as 32768-QAM which allows 15 bits to be transmitted per symbol change. For 1Gb/s, that means that you only need <70M baud.

The upstream channels are squarely in the HF to VHF range. The downstream channels (which typically require more bandwidth) start at about the same HF frequency (42MHz) but can extend above 1GHz. Each channel, however, is relatively bandwidth limited.

netruk44
17h ago
1 reply
Years ago I lived in an apartment with intermittent connection issues.

I phoned xfinity support who said they’d send a tech out at no cost to me.

The tech comes, finds bad connections in the shared external apartment box, fixes them, leaves without entering my apartment.

Xfinity sends me a support bill for the tech.

I call xfinity support to complain saying they said the tech would be free. The support agent says there’s nothing they can do and also that I should sign up for their support plan to get a 50% discount on the fee.

I tell them to cancel my internet subscription because I won’t support a company with deceptive billing practices. They give me 3 retention offers (the last one being an additional 25% discount on the tech fee). I decline because they told me it would be free. My internet is scheduled to be cancelled.

I go to twitter (as it was called at the time), and @ xfinity support with this same story.

Someone from that Twitter account DMs me and I told them that if they cancel the technician fee, they can leave my internet subscription active.

They do so with exactly no fuss.

I don’t know why, but apparently publicly @‘ing xfinity on Twitter gets you better support than calling them and actually cancelling your internet.

op00to
16h ago
3 replies
Twitter support escalation worked in the mid 2010s, but basically now the only effective escalation is to send a letter via overnight mail to the CEO office. This has worked for me for major ISPs, cell phone companies, furniture retailers, hell - even the government after some vital records I asked to get duplicates of came unreadable 5 times in a row.
PaulDavisThe1st
16h ago
2 replies
> via overnight mail

In the USA, what is this, precisely?

thallium205
16h ago
1 reply
FedEx
PaulHoule
12h ago
1 reply
Which is particularly effective in this day and age when many businesses don’t handle a lot of incoming physics mail —- send a FedEx to a particular individual at a particular location and it is not like they have a ‘mailroom’ that handles this routinely, it is a non-routine event that somebody shows up at the front desk to deliver something and inherently memorable.
op00to
12h ago
Important legal documents are shipped via FedEx every day. Can’t just ignore it like you ignore regular mail.
op00to
13h ago
Priority or Express mail. FedEx or UPS can also send documents. The idea is to bypass the normal mail room as much as possible and to get the thing on the desk of someone who is not limited by stupid rules.
qingcharles
15h ago
I inherited this trick from my father who had probably used it since the 1950s. It can work wonders. Except Cash App who closed my account for "contacting employees outside of the support chain."
vedmed
8h ago
How do you get the CEO's office address?
ct0
17h ago
1 reply
Contacting the Board of Public Utilities in NJ would have probably been your best bet. By law they need to start addressing issues within a week or so. I had some downed comms cable on my property that they took very seriously after contacting the BPU. Fixed within 2 weeks and the ISP support is local and senior.
PaulDavisThe1st
16h ago
1 reply
No idea about NJ, but here in NM, the PUC (Public Utilities Commission) says that they have authority over telephone service only and can do nothing about internet service (even if it is the same company and same wire bundle).
runjake
15h ago
1 reply
The key is to look up your local city or county franchise agreements for ISP right-of-ways and then contact those people and that agency. They should be Google-able because they’re public record. In the US, anyway.
PaulDavisThe1st
12h ago
That doesn't actually work here in my part of NM. The company is the phone company, the wiring was installed on the same easements that they used to provide phone service. The problem is that the PUC, which controls phone service, has no jurisdictional authority under state law over internet service (and neither does any other state agency). At least this is what the PUC told us during a multiway zoom meeting between residents, the phone company/ISP, the PUC and two county commissioners.
Nextgrid
15h ago
2 replies
> if you can get a message in that way, it's possible to circumvent the useless consumer-level support

Another option is to simply withhold payment for services non-rendered until the issue is fixed. This is totally fine as long as you've got documentation of the issue and a good-faith effort to resolve it with them beforehand.

What they want is to get paid; as long as they get paid they have no reason to bother actually even providing the service. Stopping payment turns it from it being your problem (you need to argue with them and convince them to spend extra money providing you with a service) to it being their problem (they now need to convince you to give them money).

Magically, they become much more cooperative all of a sudden, and if not, good riddance and you can sign up for something else (and avoid any kind of contract/commitment, since with consumer-grade telcos it's a matter of when you will need to do this again, not if).

prirun
14h ago
1 reply
Stopping payment sounds good, but may not work for a couple of reasons:

1) if you have payment auto deducted from a bank account, getting that stopped is not always straightforward. My bank told me they couldn't actually block ACH transactions, and to reverse one, I had to file a complaint with the company initiating the ACH, wait 30 days until the next bank statement to verify that the company didn't reverse the ACH, then ask the bank again to reverse the ACH.

2) in this case, the guy had other ISPs, but it looks like they were all satellite or DSL, which have really high latency. High latency and packet loss are way bigger issues than throughput, although with the severity of outage described in the article, high latency with no hard outage might be a better trade-off.

3) if you stop paying and get your service cut off, and it's critical for you (remote work, etc), now you have to scramble

ryandrake
11h ago
Never, ever, ever let a company automatically deduct money via ACH from your bank account, and 10X-never let them set this up as a recurring deduction.
hamdingers
7h ago
1 reply
This is a fantasy. They will disconnect your service and send your unpaid bills to collections. They hold all the cards.
Nextgrid
4h ago
> They will disconnect your service and send your unpaid bills to collections

I've done it; both are true and yet not the end of the world:

Disconnect the service: this is obvious, but if you're doing this because the service is not usable and you are switching to another provider anyway, so good riddance? Best case scenario they magically fix the problem, worst-case no change.

Collections: yes, they called, I provided evidence of my communication with the provider trying to resolve it in good faith. Never heard back since and it's been 6 years.

Collections agencies have a business to run and focus on collecting valid debt. Invalid debt is a liability to them and they're not in the business of adjudicating disputes, so once provided with the evidence they drop the matter (of course the provider can still pursue you directly, which is why it's important to keep evidence of your good-faith efforts to resolve the matter).

themafia
1d ago
1 reply
The comment at the bottom of the article I believe is correct. I believe this because our neighborhood had the same problem. One day my neighbor, frustrated beyond his capacity, and seemingly very high on something, went outside and started ripping infrastructure out by hand and damaging everything else he could find with a hammer.

They came out and replaced a lot of the damaged equipment and did a few upgrades. After that the intermittent 2 minute drop problems disappeared.

mh-
1d ago
4 replies
I was merely pretty sure that the comment was AI generated as I read it. After reading it, I became a lot more confident when I noticed the username above the comment: Gemini 3.

Is this a Wordpress plugin the blog author is using?

terminalshort
1d ago
4 replies
Amazing that we now live in a world where AI can instantly an accurately diagnose a network infrastructure problem, but you are still forced to talk to CS drones who tell you again and again "have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?"
mh-
1d ago
2 replies
I'm not so sure that's an accurate diagnosis. But I agree it's certainly better than one can get from phoning support.
Twirrim
1d ago
2 replies
I can't speak to the accuracy of the diagnosis, but the claims about NTP are bizarre, and to the best of my knowledge, wrong. There's nothing specific about the times the incidents cluster around that would have anything to do with NTP. It doesn't work like that.
globie
18h ago
1 reply
We're talking about this line, right?

>The precision of outages (at :29 and :44) matches a network-synchronized clock (NTP).

I think this just correctly points out that if the trigger was something unsynchronized like animals chewing on wires or someone digging underground, you wouldn't have 61% of events occurring at these two second markers. Even if the trigger was something digital but on a machine that isn't NTP synchronized, you would eventually have enough clock drift to move the events to other seconds. 61% combined at two markers (exactly 15 seconds apart) strongly suggests synchronized time.

debtta
12h ago
Those are minutes not seconds.
VBprogrammer
21h ago
Though, if I was the author the speculation about the restart time would have me breaking out a timer.
noduerme
19h ago
1 reply
Customer support isn't allowed to tell you to attack the box with a hammer. But if they could be totally honest...
supportengineer
15h ago
Oops, I accidentally destroyed your infrastructure with my car. Please roll a truck.
Workaccount2
15h ago
3 replies
Going off on a tangent now, but man, I wish when you called support you could go through a quick technical competency test, and your results dictated who you got support from.

Nailing dense questions about network infrastructure? You get to the engineering team.

Failing to know what the "G" in 2.4GHz means? You probably just need someone to tell you to restart your router.

linsomniac
14h ago
Our city fiber support is awesome and I've had luck in the past with telling the frontline tech that I likely needed to talk to one of the senior techs, and getting immediately escalated. I don't remember the exact problem I was having, but it was something slightly tricky that I had done extensive investigation on before calling.
vedmed
8h ago
This is actually a great idea. For the consumer. Not for a monopoly ISP which can ignore every issue and collect checks.
ce4
12h ago
Relevant xkcd:

https://xkcd.com/806/

cyanydeez
19h ago
"Instantly"
supportengineer
15h ago
That’s more about enhancing shareholder value than anything else. The MBA’s need to cut those costs and keep them down in order to get their promotions and bonuses. The CEO needs another yacht by the way.
vedmed
1d ago
1 reply
My brother ran the article through gemini and left that comment
ChrisMarshallNY
19h ago
Sometimes, the truth can be a letdown. Everyone was hoping it was LLMs all the way down. ;)

I am very fortunate to have two competing ISPs in my area. Verizon Fios, and Optimum Fibre. I have played them against each other. I have had both, over the years. I am currently using Optimum.

Still not especially cheap, but the service is good. The customer service ... not so good (think South Park).

stingraycharles
23h ago
4 replies
The article itself is also AI generated. Plenty of typical signs for AI.

“Every single outage lasted 124.8 ± 1.3 seconds. That’s not random hardware failure. That’s a timeout value hardcoded into something in Xfinity’s infrastructure.”

I’m getting really tired of the Internet these days.

bryanrasmussen
23h ago
1 reply
I have to admit I am also tired, and your quote sounds like a competent engineer doing a flex, and also being a bit bitter.

on edit: regarding the comment, yeah that sounds pretty AI.

NamlchakKhandro
22h ago
1 reply
I'm also getting tired of the people getting tired of the people getting tired of AI
econ
22h ago
Marketing is very excited about the negative articles.
bcraven
23h ago
7 replies
I think this is a lazy criticism that I am _also_ growing tired of.

If LLMs are trained on written information, that pattern of speech was present before they got there. It's a good way to add emphasis.

stingraycharles
21h ago
1 reply
I’m very much uninterested in reading AI generated content. Your assertions seems to be “AIs only write like that because people have been writing like that”, but that’s not a great argument.

It feels like AI has suddenly given a platform for people who previously were unable to properly write blog content. But it immediately feels unoriginal and generic.

I’m just not interested in that type of content and immediately put off by it.

The only reason I mentioned this is because of the comment about Gemini 3 being in the comments.

I’m just really, really tired of all the AI content everywhere nowadays and crave some authenticity.

It just feels like cheap remakes / imitations to of original content.

tankenmate
19h ago
2 replies
For the most part LLMs choose "the most common" tokens; so regardless of whether the content was "AI content" or not, maybe you are getting tired of mediocrity.

And of course also that mediocrity has now become so cheap that it is now the overwhelming majority.

catlifeonmars
16h ago
This is similar to how the average number of children per household is 2.5, but no one has 2.5 children. The most common tokens actually yield patterns that no one actually uses together in practice
stingraycharles
19h ago
LLMs have the tendency to really like comparisons / contrasts between things, which is likely due to the nature of neural networks (eg “Paris - France + Italy” = “Rome”). This is because when representing these concepts as embeddings, they can be computer very straightforward in vector space.

So no, it’s not all due to human language, LLMs do really write content in a specific style.

One recent study also showed something interesting: AIs aren’t very good at recognizing AI generated content either, which is likely related; they’re unaware of these patterns.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S147738802...

NicuCalcea
18h ago
1 reply
Certain patterns are much more common in LLM output than in human writing. I'm a journalist and love an em dash, for example, but I've never met/read another journalist that uses them nearly as often as LLMs. Same with the "this isn't just X, it's Y" pattern. When you have multiple of these patterns in every paragraph, it's a pretty clear indicator that the text is AI-generated.

Plus, the author admitted to using AI to write it.

Tanoc
18h ago
1 reply
One of the little tics I've noticed that helps weed out and LLM generated text is to CTRL+F and look for the word "therefor" in any of it. LLMs will use the word in a new sentence that isn't the conclusion of any previous sentences or paragraphs. Think like, "Bees are small fuzzy and yellow. Therefor their ability to fly is an astounding achievement." In all of my years of reading I've never seen people use the word that much in common writing, and when they do it's usually as part of a compound sentence. These things really do have their own little set of semantics and dialect that they follow that seems like it's a unique quirk.
onestay42
17h ago
1 reply
Do you mean therefore or therefor? I only ask because I have never seen an AI say therefor. (therefore ~ due to that; therefor ~ for that)
Tanoc
16h ago
Therefore. I'm so used to writing it without the extra E.
krsdcbl
16h ago
I'll second that, this is extremely annoying and exhausting.

It feels like the slightest occurrence of a less-than-ubiquitous pattern or any word not regularly used by the majority of the population instantly spawns a sleuth of newfound linguists who'll pitch in to explain how this certain marker ought to be proof of AI origin.

This does nothing for the conservation, except helping the claim that AI will erode and dumb down our language become a self-fulfilling prophecy when people start feeling pressured to use the most dumbed down, simplistic and rhetorically bland way of expressing themselves to avoid any "suspicion"

a2128
14h ago
Not necessarily, the LLMs used today are far from just simple models of written information on the internet. They use in-house data they wrote themselves, and RLHF/DPO where it's effectively training on its own data to optimize for human preference. If sampling with high enough temperature for this, it could theoretically bring out entirely new unseen forms of speech as long as people express their preference for it via the user interface
trueno
21h ago
I don't think anyone's here to debate the origin of speech patterns these things are using. Feels clear to me at least that the guy you're replying to is uninterested in reading stuff generated by AI, I can't say I disagree with him.
bmacho
20h ago
Was present, so what? It was 1 in 1 million, now it's 999999999 in 1 million. It is perfectly valid getting really tired of it, in fact, this is exactly what "getting really tired of" means and has always meant.
op00to
17h ago
No, that’s in literally every LLM generated response to a forum message I’ve seen. It’s so common as to have become a trope. That’s not confidence. It’s a clear indicator of AI.
vedmed
23h ago
2 replies
I used AI to analyze the log for patterns and to make the charts.
stingraycharles
21h ago
1 reply
You do you, but the least you can do is either not reply, or admit that you used AI to write the copy as well.
vedmed
20h ago
3 replies
I'm not a data analyst. Almost everything pertaining to data analysis of the log is perplexity labs.

I'm also not a journalist and the article I wrote didn't sound professional and was too long. So I had AI change it to have a professional tone and structure and then edited it.

I'm also not an artist and I had AI generate a picture of a bear reading a newspaper. Then I used krita to remove the background and make it transparent.

I also asked the AI to generate 10 headlines, it gave me this one:

How a monopoly ISP weaponizes support incompetence against technical customers

    Calls out systemic issue, appeals to HN's anti-monopoly sentiment
Then I changed it to:

How a monopoly ISP refuses to fix upstream infrastructure

Yes I leveraged expertise from three fields outside of my skillset to simplify a task, bounce back ideas, and conclude with a superior end result. It was demonstrably effective and it would have been stupid to spend 4x the effort to receive zero traction.

teiferer
19h ago
1 reply
Thanks for owning up.

Though you did your original message a disservice. Now we are left wondering how forthcoming, honest and friendly you were with that support staff. I'd also try to cheap out if I'd have to deal with a rude and/or dishonest customer. I'm not saying you were, but it's hard for us to know if you throw things at us like "why should I care?" You need to understand that this causes certain reactions.

vedmed
18h ago
1 reply
What do you mean "owning up"?

You're interjecting your own moral paradigm.

Are you going to ask a car mechanic to own up to using an impact driver? Or a contractor to own up to using an electric nail gun?

I successfully concluded a task beyond expectations. You just don't like it how I did it.

teiferer
18h ago
I personally don't mind at all that you used AI to make your writing more accessible. To the contrary, I think it's a very suitable use of the tool and I would do the same.

But don't you realize what impression you are conveying to the audience here by being so strongy defensive? To the point of lashing out at bystanders like me? That's exactly what makes people wonder how you interacted with the company that you are so strongly (and likely rightfully) criticising.

To answer your question, by "owning up" I meant admitting to using AI for the text after initially denying it. Again, no judgement on my end for having used it. Apologies if my choice of the term implies a judgement to you. That wasn't my intention.

bityard
17h ago
1 reply
If you are not a journalist, and AI is your editor, then you should remove the statement on your site that calls itself a newspaper. Newspapers have journalists and editors.

What you have, sir, is a blog.

vedmed
5h ago
make me.
mh-
14h ago
I just want to apologize if my amusement about the Gemini comment below the article played some part in kicking off this absurd off-topic witch hunt.

I don't see anything wrong with using AI in the way you did.

bmacho
20h ago
1 reply
Pangram says your article is fully AI generated. If you are going this route at least use humanifiers and check the output with popular tools fr
vedmed
20h ago
1 reply
I don't mean to be dismissive or rude, this question is genuine:

Why should I care or bother?

This is the extent to which I used AI: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46022576

bmacho
20h ago
2 replies
By "this route" I meant lying about it:

  "The article itself is also AI generated."
  "I used AI to analyze the log for patterns and to make the charts."
I don't get what you mean by "Why should I care or bother?" in this context, so I assume you misread my comment.
vedmed
19h ago
2 replies
What route dude I made an article to bring attention to the issue and the attention has been brought. Why do you want me to do things your way? I do things my way just fine. There's always someone to tell you that you should do this or that. Why should I do this or that? You do this and that if that's whats important to you. And if you want me to do this and that then convince me why I should.
stingraycharles
19h ago
2 replies
The problem isn’t that you used AI. The problem is that you want to deny using it to write the content.

If you want to go the route of denying that you use it, at least put in the effort to use one of the humanizer tools which gets rid of the typical AI patterns.

But since you didn’t do that, and at the same time are denying it, you’re digging yourself into a hole for no good reason.

At least, I don’t see the end-goal of denying that you used AI to write the article when it’s so blatantly obvious.

vedmed
19h ago
You are the one with the problem, not me.

I suggest you reread, I am very transparent about how I used AI in the very thread to which you are replying claiming that I am denying using AI.

rs186
17h ago
Exactly. If the author says "parts of the article was written by AI", that's probably it, nobody will waste any more time on this because this is what the author has decided to do.

But instead the author seems to hide the fact of using AI under the discussion where some people find it distasteful to use AI. That doesn't help.

bmacho
19h ago
You shouldn't lie about your work because that harms society (if you care about us) and society also will punish you (if you care about yourself). If you don't care about yourself or the people around you, then I have no idea why you should care.

I hate this aspect of HN, on other websites I can just block these types of sociopaths/trolls at their first message. But here I end up wasting my time and energy or I'll look bad.

rncode
18h ago
1 reply
my internet has been broken for 17 months but you're more upset about me using ai to make my sentences sound professional than about comcast refusing to fix their infrastructure
teiferer
17h ago
1 reply
Unless you (rncode) are the same person as the article's author (vedmed), nobody has expressed being upset with you.

HN doesn't normally like when people open multiple accounts. Yours is 17 hours old. (Two facts that I won't comment on further.)

vedmed
5h ago
that's not me but I concur with the statement made

get a life

yard2010
21h ago
The internet was never here to stay, it's not getting better, enjoy the last days while you can.
matt123456789
1d ago
I think it was someone trying to help and being cheeky about it.
bigbuppo
1d ago
Call your public service commission. Call your municipality. The fun thing about cable companies is that unlike telcos, their monopolies are almost always bounded by a contract.
ChrisMarshallNY
1d ago
> I imagine he was rolling his eyes while trying his utmost to care less.

Maybe they were doing this?

https://youtu.be/cyNmLzdshA8

joecool1029
1d ago
I had to go through some stuff back in 2019 with Comcast business. I had Motorola (now arris) surfboard sb6141’s that stopped bonding upstream channels as soon as they were activated past walled garden. This was immediately after a speed ‘upgrade’ that turned into a downgrade on the upstream speeds. Two units same problem. I’m the problem using old modems says reddit. DSLreports (RIP, my oldest active account on the net) was more sympathetic, but I still couldn’t get a tech that could do anything. I liked the surfboard modems so I bought a 3rd sb6183 which was newer. Bonded, activated, as soon as it provisioned the upstream channels stopped bonding, back to junk upload speeds.

After a month of getting nowhere I CC’d Brian Roberts on the thread (suggested by dslreports) and received a call the next day from someone in engineering. They informed me that it was a corrupt boot file being sent with the (then) new speed tiers. Fixed that day. I think they credited 2 or 3 months of service for the hassle of buying multiple modems and having degraded service.

And uh, yeah. That experience and eventual success after was on my mind when I wrote the RCS post on front page a few days ago.

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