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about 1 month ago

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Stupid question - how is it even possible given that you lose information on each layer? And how do one implement a non-linear activation function without an amplifier of a sort?

IronyMan100

about 1 month ago

Normally in this kind of systems, the detection is the nonlinearity. That is, you send light through the system, the light can interfere, Changes path through the system but in the end you can detect only the intensities, |E|^2.

bastawhiz

about 1 month ago

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This is a neat idea, but it's extremely light (no pun intended) on real details. Translating a simulation into real hardware that can do real computation in a reliable manner is properly hard. As much as I'd love to be an optimist about this project, I have to say I'll believe it when I see it actually running on a workbench.

If it does work, I think one of the biggest challenges will be adding enough complexity to it for it to do real, useful computation. Running the equivalent of GPT-2 is a cool tech demo, but if there's not an obvious path to scaling it up, it's a bit of a dead end.

damir00

about 1 month ago

Oh absolutely...this is kitchen-table level at this point. There is a clear path to really huge number of parameters, but a bunch of things need to be proven first. Like...can the detector meaningfully read what comes out the end of the optical chain?

I expect to have an answer this week...

cpldcpu

about 1 month ago

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"Zero power" does not include the power needed to translate information between electronic and optical domains and the light source itself.

damir00

about 1 month ago

Yes, correct. I will phrase this better in the future. The zero-power refers only to what is, in effect, the optical replacement for the ocean of matmul you have in standard Transformer implementation.

I apologize for not being clearer.

The goal isn't actually "zero power" - the goal is "so little heat dissipation in orbit is easy".

ifuknowuknow

about 1 month ago

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