You Need to See Epstein's Birthday Book for Yourself
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The article discusses the release of Jeffrey Epstein's birthday book and how it has been met with a muted reaction on social media, sparking discussion on HN about the lack of outrage and potential reasons behind it.
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First, there have been so many recent scandals, people are tired or unable to focus on yet another scandal, no matter how egregious.
Second, it appears as if almost all the rich and/or powerful are involved somehow, so it's nearly impossible to stop or fight it, so why bother?! Get rid of one paedophile only to help another gain power.
And even if it were less complex under some rubric, the complexity of such primitive skills is still more than sufficient to saturate our capacity for it.
Everyone else: there isn't much to say. Everyone knew he did this. The US decided to elect him anyway. Additional confirmation is redundant.
So yes, in a way, it is a big nothing burger.
This is actually really haunting. If you are shocked by these revelations, there is no recourse. No lever you can pull. The FBI literally had a book of names and confessions and gave up on the investigation at the whim of one of the implicated. The opposition party is powerless except in small doses. And they are feckless at the electorate level.
It's not overly cynical. All you can do is wait until midterms and vote in legislators that consider sex trafficking impeachable.
A mass of confused, angry people who feel powerless is a dangerous thing. You see the world slowly collapsing around you, and you are ignorant of the systemic forces that have eroded your quality of life for someone else’s gain, so you grasp for answers. Then someone who presents to you as an authority (by your cultural definition and role models) comes along and gives you a nice, neat answer like “It’s THOSE people’s fault. But don’t worry, I’m getting rid of them for you, the good folk. All I need is your vote, your donations and your vocal support.” It must be like a light shining at the end of a dark tunnel. You will run towards it for dear life. You will lock arms with your friends and neighbors, who are repeating the slogans like a self-soothing mantra and it makes you feel empowered and embraced instead of helpless and alone.
Then, someone else, an outsider who you don’t respect, comes along and says “WHAT? You idiot, why would you take the word of that con man? You’ve been duped and he’s taking you for all you’re worth, you fool! Also, he’s a MONSTER who preys on children. Here’s the receipts.”
Your first instinct is not to abandon your community and run back into the cold darkness of uncertainty. It’s to go “Nice try, outsider! You’re working for THEM ain’t ya? We good folk won’t be fooled so easily.” Your mind will happily follow whatever tortured logic and denial allows you to preserve your sense of identity and safety.
What we need is cult de-programming en masse, not vilification of half our population. We need counter-narratives that will create a vision of shared prosperity and mutual respect, or else this all goes to a really ugly place, and it’s going to take generations to dig ourselves out of the wreckage.
They certainly seem okay with it but it's difficult to know for sure without polling them. Perhaps we have to wait for midterms to see if they re-elect the congressmen who voted against releasing the files.
The rest is just infantilizing adults. They won, they are in power, they reap the benefits and consequences.
But I get it, I really do. I’m mad too. I’m just trying to find a peaceful path forward, and I understand that is an increasingly naive tact, but I truly don’t believe that over half the (voting population of) the country are irredeemable monsters. Yes, they are denying the evidence in front of them, but who among us hasn’t in some case big or small when confronted with an inconvenient truth? Especially when your acceptance by your tribe depends on towing the party line? We make movies about people that zig when everyone else zags precisely because they are exceptional.
What I hope to see is a reawakening of peaceful collective action rather than a turn towards violent revolution. Even if power structures are corrupt and deserve to be overturned, revolutions ain’t fun to live through, and they tend not to just hurt the “bad guys”.
What do you expect the organization built in the image of J Edgar Hoover to do if not find dirt and then keep it to itself to leverage for it's own advancement?
Can't exactly blackmail someone with info that's already been aired in a court.