Trumpcard (official Us Government Website)
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The official US government website trumpcard.gov was discovered, offering a $1 million 'gift' for a special visa, sparking widespread outrage and confusion among HN users.
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But who would have standing to challenge someone else’s visa in court? Maybe existing people trying to get a green card? Or other immigration rights activists?
Not anymore. It is now precisely the size, shape and texture of one man's ego.
> This branding seems flippant and unserious.
A groyper script kiddie named "Big Balls" had root access to the government's entire data infrastructure and just deleted shit at will, Trump's tariff policies were written by Grok using imaginary math, the head of the CDC doesn't think germs are real, the DOJ says Epstein never had a client list and Trump is definitely not a pedophile, the head of American intelligence is a Putin apologist, the Secretary of Defense is a lunatic podcaster trying to purge the military of "woke" and Trump is so much more rotten cabbage than man that he has to appear on tv by GenAI just so people still think he's a functioning human being. And he's definitely a pedophile.
We passed "flippant and unserious" miles and miles back. Can't even see it in the rear view mirror anymore.
It’s really worth reading the South Korean perspective on the whole fiasco:
https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/english_edit...
Literally the CIO of a $20b/year ARR company said to me: “I was gonna send my kids to school in the US. Now? Never in a million years. Even I won’t set foot there.“
You can’t win in the global economy AND nativist white supremacist politics at the same time.
The last eight months represent an unabated march to the most idiotic satirical version imaginable. No guardrails provided even the slightest of sanity or introspection, much less resistance.
All this because eggs were expensive and a black woman in the White House was unthinkable.
Well, that and decades of propaganda.
The main problems seems to be that in order to stop these things, you have to recognize them well ahead of when the metastasize (what's happening now). We had several obvious opportunities where the call was easy, and we couldn't make the right call every time.
The first was in 2016 when Trump revealed his abject racism and sexism, two qualities that are necessarily required for a fascist movement. If we had rejected him on the basis that he sexually assaulted women, which we knew in 2016 before the first election, we could have averted this whole disaster.
Then we had another opportunity in 2020, when he had organized an insurrection against his own government to prevent the peaceful transfer of power. At that time, we could have arrested him, convicted him, and also impeached him, barring him from office forever. If we had done that, we could again have averted this whole disaster.
Then we had a THIRD opportunity in 2024. I don't need to go over that recent history, but it suffices to say at that time we knew he was a racist, sexist, insurrectionist and we STILL voted him into power.
So I don't think the system was all that fragile. It's just, it can't bear the load of so much stupidity and self sabotage. No matter how robust the system it can't survive if you just invite the vampires in the front door!
The battle was lost because only one group understood the battle was occurring.
We didn't start the fire.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EB-5_visa
If we want a $5m visa then propose a law. Trump by himself doesn’t make laws. Bonus for a law: it keeps the policy going after this administration.
That's a far better and more meritocratic vetting process than some lotto visa with a 10 year backlog.
Trump of course is familiar with these circles, so it is no problem for him.
Have a look at the outcomes in other countries that do this.
There's usually so many loopholes that any economic benefits just don't materialise.
Specifically govts usually specify investment, but then the applicants just buy assets or property that doesn't actually help the recipient country.
NZ gave a passport to Peter Thiel. I can only hope our government introduces a taxation law specific to him!
The bar should not be investment, instead it should be how much is spent. That could also cover nomadic workers. So long as their expenses are bringing overseas income then everybody in the target country is likely to be advantaged.
Investment can benefit both parties (it doesn't have to be zero sum) but savvy investors don't give a shit whether there is any benefit to the country. Applicants naturally don't like to spend money without gain, yet the purpose of the golden visas should be to encourage applicants to spend money!!!
Or investors often just invest in static assets that just hold their wealth. That doesn't help the target country.
Just my opinion from looking at the schemes and wondering how I would get around the rules so that I had no dead weight expenses.
Plenty of millionaires are sociopathic, corrupt, and power-hungry people. The millions may even be a testament to this fact.
And if it’s a good idea, make it a law so it’s harder for future administrations to undo.
Because I am willing to bet that Donald Trump will be able to attract mostly crooked people who know how to game the system, not people who have amassed their fortunes by hard work.
PS:
Under 50 USC §3508, the CIA director or the Attorney General can bring in up to 100 aliens and their family per year for permanent residence without regard to any admissibility requirements. Perhaps to maximize revenue these spots can be auctioned off at a premium.
We should, but the program shouldn't be named after a current president. Note that it's an official .gov site, not a .com site.
Also, the payment should of course go to the Treasury, not to Trump or his party.
It's perhaps "unfair" but it's also extremely pragmatic.
But the real issue is nobody had a policy debate about this in a legislative process. There’s no permanent law. It’s just Trump making stuff up.
Congress makes laws. Executive implements them. Let’s get back to that please.
Then it will last past this random-policy-of-the-week administration.
Also is this a replacement for the green card?
If a corporation decided to apply for this, using a foreign subsidiary that holds US income from abroad—- could that corporation claim personhood and theoretically bring that income into the US tax free? Alternatively, could they funnel funds through a foreign born person to bypass paying taxes on that income?
Oh yeah, it was in the Epstein birthday book, bragging about secrets: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26086823-house-overs...
So much winning... Seriously, what a joke.
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The website is exactly like a startup landing page that hasn’t built anything but wants to check engagement before proceeding. It’s only missing fake testimonies and clients.
I am surprised though that they didn’t make it a requirement to pay in TrumpCoin.
The design is so ridiculous, I could see these cards being used as collectibles by douchey crypto bros.
Doesn't even come with a Disney fast pass or NFL redzone.
Pass.
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