There's Now a Casino in Everyone's Pocket. for Some Men It's a Near-Fatal Gamble
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The widespread adoption of mobile sports betting apps has led to concerns about increased gambling addiction among men, with some users experiencing near-fatal consequences, sparking discussions about regulation and personal responsibility.
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2667193X2...
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4938642
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/08/opinion/sports-betting-ad... | https://archive.today/yrHtp
https://www.apa.org/monitor/2023/07/how-gambling-affects-the...
We disagree, that's all. Sports betting creates more harm than benefit, based on the evidence, and therefore is worthy of aggressive regulation.
Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad thing for society and sports - https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/10/02/americans... - October 2nd, 2025
I argue that agression per se creates more harm than benefit. The thing is in controlling that requires funds (taxes) and what is more importand abolishing of privacy.
What are your arguments for disagreeing to consider legislation as agression?
Does that apply to laws against murder, rape, theft, etc? Why or why not?
But I notice that we are talking not about murder, not about rape and not about theft.
Sports betting is a systemic vacuum in the pockets of two cohorts; those who can afford to lose and able to stop (ie "entertainment"), and those who cannot stop, or when faced with losses, harm others. Regulation, in this context, is to better protect the latter cohort, because otherwise the sports betting system is privatizing the economic gains while socializing the losses on the rest of us.
Just as I like taxes, with which I buy civilization, I like regulation, as it protects humans who need protection, even if that means some impairment to what I might consider my own "liberty." "Do unto others."
At what point do we see our culture of envy or cheap "wins" or the replacement/conflation of present, active, and involved role models with the fast-fashion idol worship of celebrities/sport stars or tech-bro/influencer billionaire as helping to wire the brain in a way that rewards fast money thoughts like gambling.
When we grow up modestly and have this glamorous fast money jet-setting lifestyle of people who mostly lucked into right time/place/genetics thrown in our face at 30-60 second intervals every 10+ mins everyday of our lives (worse with social media), it's not the betting that we are not wired to defend against.
If there's a solution to course correct the culture of needing hyper-excessive things & external-validation to feel worthy I dont know what it is -- but if it involved its prohibition I would be against it as being an extension of the problem. There is a correlation between sports events and incidences of domestic violence[0], if we care about sports betting causing violence to others and wish to stop it, then by that logic stopping sports altogether solves even more harm. But cutting the sickly branches of a live oak is not the way to prevent oak wilt from spreading through the community
Betting is benign in itself, but when the belief becomes that $_thing can quickly solve all of life's problems, people get creative in their pursuit of it. Crypto itself benign, but a tool for quick money; large swaths are harmed financially and some physically (not whataboutism, its related root causes). The war on drugs didn't do so well in their protecting of others either. Targeting bets to shield people from misuse will push it back underground where the most "vulnerable" addicts have 3 problems now. (gambling, law, broken limbs) It also inadvertently reinforces the culture that they are not whole in themselves, enabling them to continue to skirt their part in being responsible for their own life and feelings of worthiness.
The top comment* here is, imo, one of the more balanced takes in terms of time to impact and coverage over the calls for hamfisted prohibition type regulations. It also minimizes harm by still treating adults as adults but also by sending the message that the predatory behaviour (e.g., gamified mobile betting, betting adverts on Premier League kits) won't be tolerated.
*"Legislation needs to target the industrialization of the delivery not the act itself." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45581785
[0] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10087409/
What about a correlation between one demagogic law and a hundred ones more? The train principle: allow one unfair action and you will see some more. Crash one window on the street and you will see more. Allow the murderer to murder once with impunity and you will see more.
And if you are a state actor - please - get off my family! Domestic violence is not your responsibility.
If you are AI please get off the internet. You not only cherry picked a small factoid but completely took it out of context and missed the boat
I can not be AI because my comments are nonconformist and I write the foreign language (English) without checking grammar.
YES.
Get your aggression out of my body.
> Well, it [bets] is theft
NO.
I know the government people will happily do anything to increase their domination, to do even more agression in future, that is all the story.
I noticed that you literally began your argument with the claim that legislation is aggression ("Legislation is aggression") and ended it with an invitation to disagree ("Or probably you might argue that legislation is not an agression[sic]?"). So I responded by presenting cases in which I believe legislation is not aggression.
1. Punish the aggressive actor by another aggression
2. Make a monopoly of punishing and choosing what to punish.
[1] is the action which will be done anyway, if nobody punish my neighbour murderer/scammer I will do it anyway because he is my neighbour.
[2] is a sign of tyranny, lets remember what we are talking about - bets. Bets are not a scam, bets are not a steal. If you and me and the others permit some state to punish for bets, the governmont will see the ability to disallow something else by demagogic justification.
I do not see anything non-agressive in disallowing bets. I understand that proprietary software does a big work towards making people to bet, I understand that the proprietary bet software might be in a hands of some kid who can easily lost all the family's earnings.
But hear me please - agressive legislation of non-agressive behaviour is not just agression, it is an opener for even more agression. Killing some murderer is agression which closes the door for futurer murders. The responses in this comment tree compares betting with murdering - why they are spreading such a demagogy? Does anybody really want a nanny state?
If you need help, get to a meeting: https://gamblersanonymous.org/
I think perhaps removing this from mobile devices would address some of the problem. Increasing effort required to participate (when someone might already want to quit) seems like it might work. It could be opt-in: “disallow gambling apps from my phone” setting that takes 10 days to unset.