Taiwan Pressured to Move 50% of Chip Production to Us or Lose Protection
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The US is pressuring Taiwan to relocate 50% of its chip production to the US, threatening to withdraw protection if they don't comply, sparking debate about the motivations and consequences of this demand.
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What on earth do you think is going to happen when you suddenly help them not rely on your infrastructure anymore.
There is no way in hell you could ever trust Trump to pick up the phone if you needed help. This is blackmail from a position of weakness from the US here.
https://www.wsj.com/world/china/trump-xi-talks-china-taiwan-... ("Xi Is Chasing Huge Concession From Trump: Opposing Taiwan Independence" (2 days ago))
In the 20th century, opposition to totalitarianism in the West was idealistic; in the US it's now transactional. US leadership is signalling Chinese annexation of Taiwan is no longer a red line; it's something to be negotiated—something that Taiwan is expected to negotiate with the US (and perhaps Xi is also invited to negotiate?)
Has the US government has gotten more trustworthy in the last 3 decades?
Only the threat of glassing a capital city of an aggressor will keep an aggressor at bay.
If I were at TSMC, I would not trust that the correct visas would be available in a timely manner to complete the project and also that any staff sent over there might get scooped up by ICE and sorted out later.
Ending up in a elsalvadoran processing centre because of red tape and political drama
The limitation was intentional. Many of the founding members were failing colonial empires, and nobody wanted to be drawn into someone else's colonial wars.
If the promised 'ensured protection' of Taiwan was worth anything then why is the security of the United States dependent upon 50% of chip production being moved out of Taiwan?
Sounds more likely Taiwan's 'ensured protection' will only last as long as 90% of chip production remains in Taiwan.
This feels only slightly more probable than Trump getting the EU to tariff China at our level (https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/trump-sanctions-russia-nato...), join the US in economic suicide (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/29/business/trump-tariffs-sm...).
The commitment to not doing the right-thing unless you can coopt other people into doing incredibly harmful to themselves things feels like it's giving enormous quarter to the enemy, to the authoritarians of the world. Having an excuse for not doing the right thing, for cry-bullying your way through your inaction, is such a Demon-Haunting move. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45404373
They just need to say “American not smart enough” lol