Survivors Clung to Wreckage for Some 45 Minutes Before U.s. Military Killed Them
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....the shipwrecked men still posed a threat ... In my opinion ...rubbish..
It was just a murder, literally to make the minister of war feels more manly.
In a war situation, which this was not, this is a war crime.
But this story has stayed in media because Trump is so brazen, declassifying CIA documents and speaking openly about these war crimes. That’s new for America. Usually these things are denied for a few decades, claims to the contrary are called “conspiracy theory”, before being admitted quietly, maybe mentioned in a back page of the NY Times.
So I’m skeptical that anyone from the US government could ever be held accountable for war crimes or violations of international law, but who knows. This does feel different.
After 20+ years of forever war it only came up as a campaign issue, in how did someone vote for the Iraq war when they were in congress.
I'm outraged about Cheney's enshittification of our nation too, but truth is important.
(Like what happened to the psychiatrists they hired to come up with waterboarding and other torture methods?)
Fast forward to today and you have a wannabe King pardoning his own coupists, massive fraudsters, and conspirators with foreign states.
And moreover, the punishment for drug dealing is not death.
B) Killing enemy sailors in a war after their ship has sunk (assuming you can justify the false equivalence of drugs with violence with war in your head) is a war crime. The single most common example of a war crime you'll find in textbooks, in fact. Not only international law & the UCMJ, but even statutory US law forbids this.
C) We have seen no evidence that they're smuggling drugs. In fact, the administration was sort of gloating on social media over the fact that they're going to shoot at anything which moves.
D) There is some evidence that some of these were fishing vessels, and some evidence that others were smuggling cheap Venezuelan fuel to the Caribbean islands where formal trade networks make it expensive.
E) The drug trade originating in Venezuela would be cocaine, not the supposed Fentanyl that Trump claims. It's at least as likely to be headed for eventual consumption in Europe as the US.
F) If they'd just done the Obama thing and killed a bunch of people without bragging about how they can kill anyone they want, we wouldn't be obsessing so much. Trump has already declared anyone skeptical of his administration, of America, of Christianity, and of right-wing politics, to be a "terrorist", and thus a valid target for artillery strike under this current justification.
G) The administration is very clearly pushing the regime change war that the GOP has been pushing since Hugo Chavez took over and limited the power of American oil primes. They have declared the Venezuelan President to be "head of the cartel", and are telling us that they're going to invade with ground troops any day now.
Americans don’t want rule of law. They don’t want norms. They want people to suffer and they take great pleasure at the concept. We must kill schadenfreude from our psyche or we will continue to celebrate this barbarism.
So long the suffering of "them" is greater, then the suffering I'm experiencing is justified and acceptable.
Not an American by the way.
So far all we have is 2 fishermen returned to their own countries, 80+ dead bodies, and all physical evidence at the bottom of the sea.
War crimes to support a narrative for a conflict the majority of Americans don't want.