Reduce, Reuse, Don't Recycle
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Styrofoam doesn't get recycled in practice. But polypropylene and PETE are extremely recyclable.
The type of plastic matters. Anyone who says "10% of plastic" is already worse than wrong. They aren't even talking about the details that matter.
Polypropylene is the easily reused one that cleans off easily. So I guess that means do reuse these but don't plan on recycling.
In any case, we need to get specific about the different kinds of plastics.
Only 75% of people have clean water.
Why would anyone use that figure to argue against expanding clean water access to 100%? Or for rolling that progress backwards.
And if we can't even sort out clean water for a quarter of the globe then it makes sense they're not going to be recycling.
Perhaps more relevantly, nearly half of all global waste is "uncontrolled" so isn't recycled, composted, incinerated or even landfilled (and that's not even accounting for the quality of any of those systems).
So should we give up on landfills, indoor plumbing etc?
It's such a fundamentally stupid talking point, it could only sustained by propaganda.
It's probably not economically profitable but does make things better overall.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amager_Bakke
I always thought Reduce, Reuse, Recycle was the correct order.
Reducing consumption is the best thing you can do, because things don’t need to be made in the first place.
Reuse means something else you may have otherwise bought doesn’t need to get made, which is another big win. I remember my grandpa’s shop growing up was full of old glass baby food jars to organize all his screws and things. Today someone would probably buy a plastic organizer and throw out the plastic baby food containers.
Recycle… something is still getting made. Some of the raw materials might be reused in the process, but it’s questionable how much, and how efficient the whole process is.
From what I’ve read, recycling program and push was paid for by the plastics industry. The hidden agenda was to get the public comfortable with single-use plastics, with the idea that they could be recycled, so it was no big deal. It seems they were amazingly successful in this effort to deceive the public.
Having them be "in order of preference" was always the intention,[0] but over time the other two got de-emphasized by the plastic industry. Reduce and reuse don't make anyone money (except savings for the consumer), but leaked internal industry studies showed that recycling gives people permission to consume more plastic.[1]
Surprisingly, the earliest media I remember calling this out was a chapter from Michael Moore's book Stupid White Men, which came out in _2001_. He provocatively said that in order to be a better environmentalist, he had stopped recycling (gasp!). This strikes me as being quite impressively far ahead of the curve on this issue...
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste_hierarchy
[1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/15/recycling-pl...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Humans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOtrvBdRx8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U
Tl;Dr charge the producers of packaging for what happens to it after use.
They respond almost immediately to that financial incentive by both reducing unnecessary usage but also improving recycling of what is still necessary because it's the second best option after funding cheap propaganda to pass the buck onto others.
Contrast the latest form of that cheap propaganda, which is to point fingers at oil companies for promoting recycling that "can't economically work" with the reality that when their own money is on the line they adopt it rapidly.
Meanwhile America is doing that "Only developed country that is failing to do this claims it's not possible" thing again.
https://www.belganewsagency.eu/new-plastic-recycling-facilit...
(Of course, recycling will still be the worst option.)
Perfect example of a system that worked really well, but was weakened and was corrupted over time because neglect.