Proton's New Governance Links It to State-Supported Foundation?
Posted3 months agoActive3 months ago
vp.netTechstory
skepticalnegative
Debate
20/100
ProtonGovernancePrivacySecurity
Key topics
Proton
Governance
Privacy
Security
Proton's new governance structure has raised concerns about its ties to a state-supported foundation, potentially impacting its independence and commitment to user privacy.
Snapshot generated from the HN discussion
Discussion Activity
Light discussionFirst comment
46m
Peak period
1
0-1h
Avg / period
1
Key moments
- 01Story posted
Oct 18, 2025 at 8:46 AM EDT
3 months ago
Step 01 - 02First comment
Oct 18, 2025 at 9:31 AM EDT
46m after posting
Step 02 - 03Peak activity
1 comments in 0-1h
Hottest window of the conversation
Step 03 - 04Latest activity
Oct 18, 2025 at 9:31 AM EDT
3 months ago
Step 04
Generating AI Summary...
Analyzing up to 500 comments to identify key contributors and discussion patterns
ID: 45626917Type: storyLast synced: 11/17/2025, 9:04:06 AM
Want the full context?
Jump to the original sources
Read the primary article or dive into the live Hacker News thread when you're ready.
On their page talking about their new AI chatbot, Lumo, they say: "Because of legal uncertainty around Swiss government proposals to introduce mass surveillance — proposals that have been outlawed in the EU — Proton is moving most of its physical infrastructure out of Switzerland. Lumo will be the first product to move." [3]
Having said all that, don't throw all your eggs in Proton's basket. We've seen them suspend journalists emails [4], turn individuals over to law enforcement, embrace Trump's big tech vision & etc. I wouldn't consider it some kind of privacy utopia by any means, and keeping your services diversified is still a wise idea.
[1] Is Proton leaving Switzerland? "Legal uncertainty" of proposed surveillance laws is pushing them to make several changes https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/is-proton...
[2] Proton to Expand Infrastructure Beyond Switzerland Over Surveillance Law Fears https://cyberinsider.com/proton-confirms-gradual-exit-from-s...
[3] Introducing Lumo, the AI where every conversation is confidential https://proton.me/blog/lumo-ai
[4] Proton Mail Suspended Journalist Accounts at Request of Cybersecurity Agency https://theintercept.com/2025/09/12/proton-mail-journalist-a...