Postponed '60 Minutes' Segment on Salvadoran Prison Is Streamed by Canadian News
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The controversy surrounding a '60 Minutes' segment on El Salvador's notorious CECOT prison has sparked a lively debate, with some speculating that the original discussion thread was flagged into obscurity by Trump supporters or bots. However, others counter that the "Trump supporter" label has become a proxy for ad hominem attacks, muddying the waters. As commenters bicker over the motivations behind the flagging, some wander off-topic, seeking recommendations for alternative online forums. Meanwhile, the relevance of the story itself remains a point of contention, with one commenter questioning its connection to the site's typical fare.
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You see this here with other topics, too, not just things some people dismiss as "political". Submit any article that criticizes a certain multi-company tech CEO and it will be instantly flagged off the main page.
You went from curious to accusation of misinformation and lying in just two comments. Thats concerning.
People who are afraid that they will get attacked if their views do not conform to the majority are more likely to flag an article and move on rather than engage with the discussion. Articles do not require 50% of the participants to flag it in order for it to get flagged, thus this minority will cause articles to get flagged. The more hostile the community get to dissenting opinions, the more articles get flagged, with the most heated topics getting the majority of flagging.
Yes, argue against unsubstantiated bias with more unsubstantiated bias. Anyone who knows about the high percentage of educated immigrants in the tech sector and who knows the historical importance of immigrants to American innovation could easily find this highly relevant, especially the historical high ratio of successful immigrant founders in SV itself including a couple of white South Africans that come to mind -- at least one of which who seems to have had a less than by-the-book immigrant status and could have been deported in today's climate if someone wished it to be so.
>Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon.
Who is Bari Weiss? Why does it matter what she thinks? Without watching an hour of American TV, what’s in that episode that she wants it suppressed so bad?
I mean we all know that the US sends people without due process to a Salvatoran prison, that’s (terrible and) not new. So what is, that it gets HN this hotheaded?
She went on to found a center right online publication. Then she was named the head of CBS News. She's arguably less qualified than most, but she's not as unqualified as others claim she is.
All of this has gotten people really worked up about her.
It's worth noting, I guess, that she's also a lesbian. I only say that because I've noticed that it's most often people who have the "right" social characteristics that get the most aggressive responses. The people criticizing her wouldn't expect a white male to do anything else, but those that step out like Weiss often get the most pushback.
https://theintercept.com/2018/03/08/the-nyts-bari-weiss-fals...
I'm not sure "my coworkers don't respect me" is the same thing as "I got fired".
I left it off because "she resigned" is definitely not the same thing as "I was fired".
I'd love to know what policy/opinion you think is "Moderate" from Bari Weiss, and which opinion piece of hers demonstrates it when compared to the sheer volume of Deep Conservatism she espouses in all of the rest of her work.
> It's worth noting, I guess, that she's also a lesbian...
This bit is solidly poisoning the well, because it gives you the ability to claim that any legitimate criticism about Bari Weiss Kowtowing to the current administration is because she's a lesbian, and not because she's legitimately censoring free speech like everyone claimed the news was doing before she started actually doing it.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard this idea communicated in this kind of framing. I think it makes your point quite striking.
Uh
Two of those reasons are a kind of self-censorship for political reasons tied to who is in power. Democracy needs journalism that's ready to stand up to the people in power or we become a state like North Korea where people can't speak the truth.
The fear when she was, recently, appointed was that she’d exert editorial control to hide stories critical of Trump. This episode being buried at least has the appearance of this happening.
Now that he is part of the inner circles of the US government, and through his son trying to reach into traditional media it significantly increases the damage potential he can do.
Given the quote from him that mass surveillance would "keep citizens in their best behaviour" it's actually frightening he managed to create proxy censorship through CBS, he's not even that far disconnected, it's simply: Larry Ellison -> David Ellison -> Paramount -> Beri Weiss -> CBS.
https://archive.org/details/insidececot
If you just watch the first five minutes you'll have more idea of why it's bad. The whole thing is 15 mins.