Pope Criticizes Us Bid to 'break Apart' Us-Europe Alliance
Posted25 days agoActive20 days ago
apnews.comNewsstory
heatednegative
Debate
80/100
PoliticsVaticanUs_europe_relations
Key topics
Politics
Vatican
Us_europe_relations
Discussion Activity
Active discussionFirst comment
1m
Peak period
16
0-12h
Avg / period
4.3
Key moments
- 01Story posted
Dec 12, 2025 at 7:07 PM EST
25 days ago
Step 01 - 02First comment
Dec 12, 2025 at 7:09 PM EST
1m after posting
Step 02 - 03Peak activity
16 comments in 0-12h
Hottest window of the conversation
Step 03 - 04Latest activity
Dec 17, 2025 at 3:16 PM EST
20 days ago
Step 04
Generating AI Summary...
Analyzing up to 500 comments to identify key contributors and discussion patterns
ID: 46250594Type: storyLast synced: 12/13/2025, 7:05:19 AM
Want the full context?
Jump to the original sources
Read the primary article or dive into the live Hacker News thread when you're ready.
And considering Russia does not intend to stop expansion, absent pressure on Russia, they will be eventually dying in Germany.
Fighting when it's needed leads to more dead this week than abject surrender would cause, but if history is any guide, it leads to fewer dead bodies this decade.
What AnimalMuppet shows with the failure of "peace in our time" is how speaking softly only works in combination with a big stick, to paraphrase a different politician from a different continent around a generation earlier than "peace in our time".
Go a bit further back. WW1.
It’s easy to talk about “never appease an aggressor” when its someone else’s kid. Now it’s a story arch. Good vs evil. Entertainment! Like sports. You pick your team. But from the comfort of your tv, of course.
Klerofascism is a thing and if pope does not want the catholic church going that way, he has to. Trump, J.D.Vance and Steven Miller dont get to pretend they speak for religion.
Today you have catholic priests openly promoting semi fascist politicians and parties. Pope is taking side in that too.
You dont see people who want pope to be super neutral take issue with these. You dont see them take issue with Vance using his catholicism to tie his policies to catholicism.
What US is doing now is not an abtract politics eith no tie to religion - they claim to speak for European christianity. If pope stay silent, it will ve taken as confirmation.
And "looking for peace" is no less a political stance than "crusade against the infidels."
Without accountability blurbs here and there from politicians, pope's, clerics are like what a recent HN article calls being lost in the world of symbols and symbol references i.e. practical nonsense.
You can't really get to know a player unless they've got skin in the game. Short of that it's shadow boxing.
Countries are not really intending to leave the EU, not even Hungary, because they know very well that big boys outside will turn them into their toy.