Patrick Winston: How to Speak (2018) [video]
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The Hacker News community discusses Patrick Winston's 2018 'How to Speak' video, praising its insights on effective communication and public speaking, while sharing personal anecdotes and experiences with Winston's teaching style.
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Here is a link to a previous video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7EuXNw0DaA&list=PL240A9CB42...
I think it is better if he explains it
It was an odd format. The class outwardly presented itself as a seminar class where you just read and discuss AI papers. Several of the papers involved doing mean things to ferrets. But really it was a writing/communication class with Winston giving you life advice. I remember one of his teachings was how to build and maintain your network (email them ~twice a year). And also before a big lecture you can warm up your voice by making a barking noise. He also brought donuts to most every class. I miss you professor Winston.
But there were also great AI papers, and meta advice on reading them efficiently. (I don't remember any crimes against ferrets, but presumably the reading list changed over time)
I appreciated that class, and it's only grown on me over time. Another line that really stuck with me was something like "forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit" (Which I remembered as "Perhaps we will look back on even this with fondness") It's so easy to undervalue amazing things when they are happening to you. I was really convinced that I was appreciating it, even more than many around me. But I still look back and think I could have soaked it in, even more.
One of the things I treasured the most was that Professor Winston overtly subscribed to the "make topics crystal clear and broadly accessible" school of technical communication. He would contrast this against the "make things incomprehensible so everyone thinks you're brilliant" school of thought. I am eternally grateful someone biased me early in life towards the former, not just when I'm speaking but when I'm choosing what to read and who to listen to.
I've also wondered lately what he would think about the current LLM wave. I'm sure he would have had a characteristically clear and profound take. I feel the world is losing out not having his voice during the current moment.
You quoted it correctly. It's from The Aeneid, and your translation is basically correct.
Phenomenal talk.
How to Speak [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39670484 - March 2024 (2 comments)
How to Speak - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31489765 - May 2022 (2 comments)
How to Speak (MIT OCW) [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30046076 - Jan 2022 (1 comment)
How to speak (2018) [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23878328 - July 2020 (5 comments)
How to Speak by Patrick Winston - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23570443 - June 2020 (1 comment)
How to Speak (2018) [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22848034 - April 2020 (43 comments)
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Patrick Winston has died - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20482768 - July 2019 (81 comments)
https://courses.csail.mit.edu/6.803/index.html - The supplementary reading list for this class looks interesting.
https://www.amazon.com/Make-Clear-Speak-Persuade-Inform/dp/0... - Patrick co-authored a book on communication based on said class.
Ah, the good old days.
Any time I see a wall of text on a presentation, I know I can probably tune out and not miss much.
When giving a talk, your slides are not "the show." YOU are the show.
But also the storyteller and also the slides.
Every TED speaker is coached to start with a personal story.
When I do low-text slides anyway, sometimes I've used the "notes" field of the presentation program to write out complete text of a version of the speech, for my eyes only. Then I don't read the notes while presenting, but I've gone through that writing exercise, to think through the content and presentation more rigorously than is necessary to slap some headings on slides.
I'd rather the talk was interesting and entertaining for the audience than present a slide deck of bullet points
If the slide deck is meant to be something that can be shared around and make sense without you, it needs to have a lot of text on the slides. Even putting it in the speaker notes doesn’t work.
So make sure you know your audience and the context (also important presentation advice)
If you have to serve both uses, text goes on the slides. If you’re primarily speaking then just include the speaker notes and hope it makes sense. If the slides will be shared primarily, text goes on the slides and you just deal with it while presenting.
Slide decks have a "NOTES" view.
Put pretty pictures in the REAL view.
Share it and they will read the NOTES view.
Duh.
Then isn't that just a document? Why use a slide deck?
https://web.archive.org/web/20161223041152/https://idlewords...
https://boringtechnology.club/
Those talks don’t have too much text on slides, yet they can still be shared as text by including the speaker’s script aligned with each slide. They also have online video versions for comparison.
I don't think this is good advice. What you should actually do is not just read out the slide. The slide isn't your autocue.
It's fine to have text on a slide if you are talking about that text. For example you might be analysing some code, or writing techniques or whatever.
Honestly it's really obvious if you've ever watched any presentations in your life... but people still do it because it feels a lot easier.
If I'm going to listen a someone speak without me being able to respond/interact/have a conversation with them, it can be recorded and I can watch it whenever is convenient for me.
I feel this way with work presentations too -- record them, and let me watch them anytime. Don't make me sit and listen to someone (or a group of people) give a lecture, so that I have to follow along live.
If I'm watching a recording, there's a far greater chance that I'll actually absorb the content, as a) it'll be during a time that works for me, not some arbitrary scheduled time that may or may not interrupt other things that are distracting me from the presentation, b) I'll be able to rewind if -- no, when -- I zone out for a minute, and c) I can skip/speed up the parts that aren't as relevant to me.
I wish we would move away from these live lectures/presentations, and more to async/recorded sessions.
(As a bonus, it also makes the speaking/presenting side easier, as it can be edited, if desired.)
I think theres value to being together in a room. Even if its perceived one-way communication.
But most university professors (hopefully) engage with students, allow discussion/questions, and offer assistance, even if outside of class.
But if professors never speak to students, and students aren’t allowed to engage with each other, then yes, there is (almost) zero reason to have everyone sitting in the room together.
And if professors are doing this over VC, again with zero opportunity to engage with the professor/other students, then send out recordings/other async forms of instruction.
Agreed. The company I work at(major scheduling company starts with a C) uses Loom a lot and it made 3 months of onboarding training much less painful.
Thankful I could learn a bit more about him here: https://web.archive.org/web/20220707071624/https://www.memor...
I read in the comments that he is passed away, god bless him.
https://www.amazon.com/Make-Clear-Speak-Persuade-Inform/dp/0...
i thought the standard (mba presentation) format was something like:
tell em what youre goin to tell em (intro)
tell em what you said youll tell em (body)
tell em what you told em (outro)
And a couple more pearls from Prof. Winston here as well. https://muratbuffalo.blogspot.com/search?q=winston
Every time I am sitting in the audience of a talk where someone uses overcrowded PowerPoint slides with small fonts and goes through tables of numbers that no-one in the audience can read, mumbling quietly or rushing nervously through their material, long having lost most of the audience, I feel like sending the presenters the link to this timeless masterpiece (happens at least a few dozen times per year).
It has also made me a better teacher in the lecture hall, and appreciate using chalk more, and slides less.
This clip is worth watching again every couple of years, which I do, out of enjoyment and to refresh my memory (reminds me I still need to procure some cool props for my upcoming AI1 lecture in October...).
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