Marc Andreessen as Avatar for Societal Decay
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(2) I like it that people are picking up the concept of "vice signalling"
(2) Countersignalling is older than your parlance makes it sound. See Fussell Class, hipsters, etc
Billionaire Marc 'It's Time to Build' Andreesen Is a NIMBY
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45918652
Andreessen has, over the past few years, been engaged in a battle with people he calls ‘decels’, the enemies of growth."
Watching Marc Andreesen talk, I noticed everything he says is sort of strategic cosplaying. In the interview with Joe Rogan, one thing that jumped out at me was when he says, Democrats are now the party of the rich and the poor and Republicans are the party of the middle, but like, I could just vibe he didn't give a fuck about what he was saying, it just sounded good and was useful to him to say in that political moment.
I've listend to two interviews with him, and while he's obviously very smart and well read, he sort of obviously bias' everything he does to how he feels in the current moment, very adolescent in the elon musk / trump way. On the one hand he's able to write the it's time to build manifesto that does seem to say alot of the right things, while I think sort of secretly just trying to destablize the US / take down institutions / deeply nihilistic.
What does it mean for you to have vibed that he didn't give a fuck about what he was saying? This pithy observation about contemporary US poltical parties isn't unique to him and doesn't seem obviously incorrect. This seems like a pretty normal thing to state on a podcast like the one Joe Rogan does.
More to the point if you're making a broad generalization about how politicians in the US appeal to different demographic segments within the American electorate, thinking about what significantly less than 3000 billionaires are doing at all is a rounding error.
That means there will be a mix of honesty in everything.
This fact is true of everyone to some degree, but to an extreme in Andreessen. He will not be talking to someone unless there is a specific goal around his empire. And his goals diverge from those of the random engineer in very large ways.