LandChad, a Site Dedicated to Turning Internet Peasants into Internet Landlords
Original: LandChad, a site dedicated to turning internet peasants into Internet Landlords
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The debate around LandChad, a site empowering internet users to become self-sufficient "Internet Landlords," has sparked a lively discussion. While some commenters, like nerdsniper, praise the site's vibe and mission, others, such as johnklos, nitpick its content, arguing that the term "landlords" has negative connotations and that some technical explanations lack context. The conversation takes a turn when the morality of being a landlord is questioned, with some, like greekorich, labeling it "inherently immoral" and others, like milesrout, defending the practice as a valuable service. Meanwhile, many users, including Babkock and 2Gkashmiri, share their positive experiences with the site's guides, particularly those on setting up email servers, although beeflet raises a valid concern about the deliverability of emails from self-hosted servers.
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* landlords aren't a good thing.
* "setup" is a noun.
* It'd be helpful to offer some context. For instance, talking about ufw without even mentioning that we're talking about Linux, or even a specific Linux distro, would make most people confused. Same with apt.
These are good guides, but it should be kept in mind that they don't try to teach you anything - they're more guides to simply follow, and if you happen to learn something along the way, great.
But it makes sense to have guides that just tell you how to do a thing and don't explain it, because that represents a good chunk of the people out there. It wouldn't be bad to have links to stuff for those who want to understand what they're doing, though.
Overall, we need more sites like these.
that's not what landlords are. That's the construction company or the building manager and he or she's indeed doing a great service. Landlords are absentee owners who extract economic rent. You can of course, like say Vienna, nationalize most of the housing stock and hire people who provide actual services just the same.
Set up is a phrasal verb and omitting the space is incorrect, yes, but only an annoying pedant would point it out.
It recommends Debian and says:
>I make my guides on this site for Debian 11. If you use another OS, just know that your [mileage] may vary in terms of you might need to change some instructions here minorly.
If you were going to complain about bad grammar, that sentence is a much better target, and yet it is still quite easily understandable.
I set up a new mailserver a few years ago and have had no delivery problems whatsoever. All messages get through to gmail and outlook/o365 inboxes I've sent to. Didn't even have to register the IP with O365, it's just worked flawlessly from day one. That was from an IP address/netblock not associated with cloud or VPS providers, so initial reputation may have been higher.
A few months ago I set up a mail server on a VM in Digital Ocean, and have had no delivery problems to gmail/Google Apps recipients.
More recently, for new IPs sending mail into O365, they appear to be blocked by default but the rejection message gives you a URL to go to where you can register your IP(s). After doing that, we haven't seen any problems.
If you end up getting an IP that has been associated with previous spam or abuse, I assume your experience will be different. But in my experience, my handful of servers have not had delivery problems. This is all, of course, with proper reverse DNS records that match what the server advertises in its HELO/EHLO, SPF and DKIM all set up, etc.
For more regular email user, it is better that one host or find some reliable person or entity that can host your email under domain that your own.
Once you have everything else set up, you can migrate to a server hosted on your own internet connection. Running your own data center is one of the more tricky parts of the equation, compared to almost-free web hosting for a 10MB site.
You're also just renting a domain name.
Yet nobody goes around looking to purchase protection from the mob either, do they? The key problem with the arrangement isn't that the protection isn't provisioned, it's that the entire arrangement is involuntary and forced upon the business owner through threat of violence, whether by the mob or the state.
If you want to be a real rent-seeker (sorry, meant to say “landlord”) you’ll need to purchase an AS and become a BGP-peering sovereign citizen cutting deals with backbone networks.
Which is doable as an individual. One of my very best mate did just that: granted he's got quite the networking skills but he did that entirely on his own.
He'll even get 256 IPv4 addresses but for these he was put on a long waiting list (I think in one to two months he'll get them but he's waiting since about a year): IPv4 addresses are the actual scarce landlordy Internet resources!
PS. I think you're shadowbanned since this and your last 7 comments all showed up as [dead].
[1]: https://www.lumen.com/en-us/about/legal/peering-policy.html
[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_network#List_of_Tier_1_...
[3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_network#Other_major_net...
Asking the important questions.
Disagree with the "land ownership" portion of the title as it will be obvious to anybody following the tutorials that they don't own their web server or their domain name.
So I guess the aptness of the analogy is unevenly distributed geographically. :)
It also does not apply to everything listed there. Build your own platform is doing things governments will not even notice if you do it for yourself and people you know rather than as a public service.
You might have problems in countries with poor rule of law if you had done something to offend the rulers. In anywhere with a reasonable system of justice you would be fine.
The salient point is right on the front page of this site:
Starting a website is something that can be done in a lazy afternoon and costs pocket change.
If that is true for someone attempting to become an "internet landlord", it is also true for all of their potential customers.
Anyone have any comments on Vultr as a vps provider - positive or negative? As far as I can tell they provide 2TB of egress bandwidth and uncapped ingress: is that right?
I’d probably say “…internet homeowners where, like in the UK leasehold property system, you’re still basically a tenant but without paying someone else’s mortgage, and even when you’re a freeholder the king actually still more or less owns the land”.
Admittedly this is less snappy.
Sadly in today's world, 90% traffic happens on phones. And the free app landscape is bad.
Smooth sailing since.
This is a goldmine
Setting up all these services can be tedious but it’s not the hard part. Robust backups and a strategy around them is, and there is very little information on this topic in comparison (generally)
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