High-Power Microwave Defeats Drone Swarm
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Epirus' Leonidas high-power microwave system demonstrated its ability to defeat a swarm of 49 drones, but the discussion revolves around the system's effectiveness, limitations, and potential countermeasures.
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How much energy, how long is the pulse, how close were the drones?
Regardless I think the primary challenge with these systems will be energy on site and a surge of it during waves of attacks. Charged up capacitors can only handle so many waves.
Are these Masars? If not, square cubed to the rescue.
In fact at the limits of performance lasers (and particularly masers) are quite bad at generating straight beams, because they are quite small sources of light and divergence is inversely proportional to the width of the emitter. It is a misconception that they are low-etendue.
1 millisecond pulses and 70 kW continuous usage[1] which is roughly equivalent to the AN/TPQ-53[2]. 2 km range.
> Regardless I think the primary challenge with these systems will be energy on site and a surge of it during waves of attacks. Charged up capacitors can only handle so many waves.
That is not how this kind of thing works. Capacitors are a terrible energy source. Their voltage drops off exponentially as they discharge and almost all electronic are very particular about the voltage they require. A railgun wants current and does not care about voltage. Radio transmitters care a lot about voltage.
Regardless, a 70 kW generator fits on a small trailer. Smaller than the weapon itself. It will run for days on a good sized tank of diesel.
[1] https://www.twz.com/land/army-puts-50m-bet-on-next-gen-leoni...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/TPQ-53_Quick_Reaction_Capab...
They're a pretty good way of storing energy in a way you can deliver it _really really_ fast. Sure, not in a way your carefully designed electronic circuits can make use of it, but if you need a really really big ZAP! capacitors are a reasonable option. After all, clouds and dirt are not the most efficient choice for capacitor plates, and air is not an ideal dielectric, but lightning goes ZAP! quite satisfyingly.
As I posted elsewhere here,you might enjoy Lightning On Demand's Lorentz Cannon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lix-vr_AF38
At full load and a thermodynamic efficiency of about ~31% a 70kW generator is about 300hp mechanical. Those fit on a trailer. Not a "small" trailer. A dual axle type trailer with ~1.3 tons of capacity (Cummings C70D2RE.) Military generators tend to be heavier than commercial units. It will burn about ~175 gal/day of diesel, so yes a "good sized" tank about: about ~3.2 55 gal drums every day.
Now, they're imagining "625 element" systems for adequate coverage of a high value site, like an air base. About 2000 bbl/day. That's a little more than 10 large tanker trucks of fuel.
Logistically non-trivial. The Russian's have learned that large fuel trucks are short-lived in drone-dense environments.
Of course, that all for 100% 24/7 operation. I suspect that any real system will quickly become adept at running far less than 100%.
Sure seems like NATO would love to get a hold of some of these.
You'll sometimes find a squirt this on the inside of consumer electronics, for a quick radiated emissions compliance fix.
[1] https://www.amazon.com/stores/MGChemicals/page/0ADAC495-496D...
Combine those with the more-common juxtaposition of WD-40 versus duct-tape, and one can probably summon something eldritch.
You can... once.
But that IR transmitter will be easily detected and destroyed.
And at the end, they were able to protect the drone, with a tiny bit of shielding...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3iJjrQmEho
(This was original DJI Phantom era, so maybe 10 years or so back. I'm not aware of results of similar testing against newer DJI gear, but I doubt it'd be much different, at least for consumer DJI stuff.)
That's not what happened in the video! Per the comments:
"I was really hoping the conductive tape lightning rod was going to work, but no."
It is just a high-power microwave transmitter, made with gallium nitride field-effect transistors.
Like any microwave transmitter, it can use a directional antenna. If the antenna is big enough, it can have a narrow enough transmitted microwave beacon to intercept only a single drone.
The GaN FETs enable a higher transmitter power at whatever high frequency they are using. At lower frequencies, a 70-kW power was already easily achievable in the past. The higher frequency allows a precise aiming of the microwave beacon with an antenna of reasonable size.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29459896
Shielding helps of course, adds expense and adds weight, the two things that cut into how many you can make for $X and how far they can fly.
Counter drone systems in battle are going to be a thing, things like the Danish 'bird' RADAR sees them easily enough[1], targeting them with EMF just needs an antenna, generator, and some clever electronics.
This becomes more important as the drones become more autonomous because if there is no operator to 'jam', electronic counter measures are not as effective.
[1] https://www.weibelradars.com/drone-detection/
No, that doesn't happen. Currents can be induced in the wires to the motors, but not in the motors themselves. For one thing, the outside surface of the motors is the aluminum rotor which is an extremely effective faraday cage. For another, coils don't act like antennas. Loops of wire in an electric field have the exact same voltage difference as a straight wire.
> Shielding helps of course, adds expense and adds weight, the two things that cut into how many you can make for $X and how far they can fly.
Shielding adds virtually zero weight; carrying a spool of fiber optic cable adds a lot of weight. All the drones in Ukraine right now are fiber optic but most of them are unshielded... the reason why is not that shielding is heavy, it's just that there are lots of jammers but very few truck-sized weapons intended to totally disable drones.
That's also assuming it would even work on a drone without an antenna. If these weapons are not relatively broad-spectrum then they will be very sensitive to the particulars of the circuitry, and they won't always work.
Coiled antennas are fairly common and have been around since at least the 1960s...
It is not the number of turns that matters to distinguish coil antennas from motors, though indeed a high number of turns in both motors and antennas leads to a high inductance, which ensures that any resonance frequencies will be low, so a received radio signal of high frequency will not be amplified by a resonance.
The magnetic circuit of a coil antenna has a very big air gap, because its ferromagnetic core usually has the form of a cylinder or of a prism and the magnetic circuit closes through the air between the opposite ends of the core.
The magnetic circuit of a motor has only small air gaps between stator and rotor, which are required to allow the rotor movements. Because of the small air gaps, the inductance of a motor winding is much higher than the inductance of a coil antenna with the same number of turns and using a ferromagnetic core made of the same material.
Any electromagnetic wave has both an electric field and a magnetic field, hence its name.
An antenna can be made from either a straight wire sensitive to the electric field or from a loop of wire sensitive to the magnetic field.
The only reasons why a motor is usually a bad antenna is that it should have a case with good shielding properties (i.e. the magnetic circuits have only small gaps) and the high inductances of its windings act as low-pass filters for high-frequency induced currents, like those of a microwave transmitter.
There exist electric motors with very low inertia of the moving parts (to enable high accelerations), where the rotor does not have any ferromagnetic material and the stator has large gaps for the rotor. Such motors can be much more efficient antennas than standard motors, but such motors are not used in drones.
All the cheap radios for under 30 MHz signals used antennas made of a ferrite bar with a coil on it, very similar to a motor winding, except that the magnetic circuit had a much greater gap than in a motor, because they were more sensitive at small sizes than antennas sensitive to the electric field.
Moreover, brushless motors do not have an aluminum rotor. You are thinking about AC induction motors. Induction motors do not have brushes, but nobody calls them brushless, because they never had brushes. Only DC motors are called brushless, because their classic variant had brushes, which are replaced by power transistors in brushless motors.
The aluminum rotor of induction motors is normally inside, not outside. The inverted construction is rare.
Both induction motors and brushless motors have windings only on the stator, which is the external part in the normal motor structure, and those are equally susceptible to variable magnetic fields, except that they are usually bad antennas for the reasons mentioned above, especially at microwave frequencies.
In an ideal motor, the stator is not an electrical conductor (which is actually the case for ferrite stators), so it has no shielding properties for electric fields, but it has shielding properties for the magnetic field, if the gaps in its magnetic circuit are small.
At the same time, terrain is just harder and slower to navigate, it's easier to erect barriers, and humans are better at spotting eye-level threats. There's a reason why murder-drones are common on the battlefield, and murder-humanoids aren't.
https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1056602.1056608
https://donhopkins.com/home/TurtlesAndDefense.pdf
>TURTLES AND DEFENSE
>Introduction
>At Terrapin, we feel that our two main products, the Terrapin Turtle ®, and the Terrapin Logo Language for the Apple II, bring together the fields of robotics and AI to provide hours of entertainment for the whole family. We are sure that an enlightened application of our products can uniquely impact the electronic battlefield of the future. [...]
>Guidance
>The Terrapin Turtle ®, like many missile systems in use today, is wire-guided. It has the wire-guided missile's robustness with respect to ECM, and, unlike beam-riding missiles, or most active-homing systems, it has no radar signature to invite enemy missiles to home in on it or its launch platform. However, the Turtle does not suffer from that bugaboo of wire-guided missiles, i.e., the lack of a fire-and-forget capability.
>Often ground troops are reluctant to use wire-guided antitank weapons because of the need for line-of-sight contact with the target until interception is accomplished. The Turtle requires no such human guidance; once the computer controlling it has been programmed, the Turtle performs its mission without the need of human intervention. Ground troops are left free to scramble for cover. [...]
>Because the Terrapin Turtle ® is computer-controlled, military data processing technicians can write arbitrarily baroque programs that will cause it to do pretty much unpredictable things. Even if an enemy had access to the programs that guided a Turtle Task Team ® , it is quite likely that they would find them impossible to understand, especially if they were written in ADA. In addition, with judicious use of the Turtle's touch sensors, one could, theoretically, program a large group of turtles to simulate Brownian motion. The enemy would hardly attempt to predict the paths of some 10,000 turtles bumping into each other more or less randomly on their way to performing their mission. Furthermore, we believe that the spectacle would have a demoralizing effect on enemy ground troops. [...]
>Munitions
>The Terrapin Turtle ® does not currently incorporate any munitions, but even civilian versions have a downward-defense capability. The Turtle can be programmed to attempt to run over enemy forces on recognizing them, and by raising and lowering its pen at about 10 cycles per second, puncture them to death.
>Turtles can easily be programmed to push objects in a preferred direction. Given this capability, one can easily envision a Turtle discreetly nudging a hand grenade into an enemy camp, and then accelerating quickly away. With the development of ever smaller fission devices, it does not seem unlikely that the Turtle could be used for delivery of tactical nuclear weapons. [...]
Or all the way up. Yertle the Turtle represented Hitler, and now Trump and Putin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yertle_the_Turtle_and_Other_St...
>Seuss has stated that the titular character Yertle represented Adolf Hitler, with Yertle's despotic rule of the pond and takeover of the surrounding area parallel to Hitler's regime in Germany and invasion of various parts of Europe.[3][4] Though Seuss made a point of not beginning the writing of his stories with a moral in mind, stating that "kids can see a moral coming a mile off", he was not against writing about issues; he said "there's an inherent moral in any story" and remarked that he was "subversive as hell".[5][6] "Yertle the Turtle" has variously been described as "autocratic rule overturned",[7] "a reaction against the fascism of World War II",[8] and "subversive of authoritarian rule".[9]
When Dr. Seuss Made Hitler Into a Turtle: A reading of Dr. Seuss’s “Yertle the Turtle” with a bit of history in mind.
https://benkageyama.medium.com/when-dr-seuss-made-hitler-int...
The longer pulses the in this platform seem to be a big part of delivering effect on target. Area under the curve is where the damage happens.
What I think makes Leonidas more efficient is they likely operate in continuous wave bursts rather than pulses. Probably with a broad comb rather than one specific value too.
Probably better off with #12 or #9 bird shot shells, or a cool pet falcon named Xavier. =3
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-25/denmark-defence-minis...
No problem, you just say that Russians deliberately target civilians.
Why do you think that?
>almost requires us to also believe
That's easy. Russia deliberately targets civilians, but being totally inept, misses and hits different civilians.
>of which the evidence is scarce
Is it?
Have a look at this one, where Russia hit Ukrainian MLRSes in a night strike.[0] Western media reported that as inhuman and savage Russians destroying a shopping mall.[1] The mall indeed suffered but only because the Ukrainians parked MLRSes next to it. Ironically the Ukraine itself provided the evidence of that by distributing video where they talk about the mall but incidentally show destroyed MLRS (the other one got evaporated).[2]
[0] https://t.me/aleksandr_skif/3150
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/06/world/europe/russia-ukrai...
[2] https://t.me/ASupersharij/28133
Re: Russia deliberately targets civilians, but being totally inept, misses and hits different civilians. -- Yep, absolutely, but this is unfalsifiable I guess. I mean, maybe they're targeting hostile aliens from space, but being inept, [...]
Re: Why do you think that? -- I extrapolate from Putin's allies really. Hamas specifically (and very vocally / proudly) targets civilians, Hezbollah targets civilians, Iran and Houthis routinely fire ballistic missiles at residential areas. (I'm only listing things I've actually witnessed, as a noncombatant.)
So intuitively they're all in the same bucket. I'll be happy to be completely wrong about Russia in this regard.
Here is the Ukraine targeting the same high-rise apartment building in Kazan with multiple drones: https://t.me/readovkanews/91042
Here is the Ukraine blowing a bridge in Russia exactly when a passenger train was passing under it leading to deaths of civilians including children: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/01/deaths-as-russ...
Here are a paramedic and an ambulance driver murdered by Ukrainian drone near Sudzha (Kurskaya oblast): https://t.me/readovkanews/85353
I could go on and on.
Which conclusions do you draw from that about the current Ukrainian regime or Ukrainian nationalists?
Hamas, Hezbolla or Houthis are hardly Russian allies. Iran isn't fighting on the Russian side like North Korea did, but I guess you can call them an ally of sorts.
Here is a bit about Israel, which supports the Ukraine:
Assuming that's true, should we extrapolate that too?[0] https://www.businessinsider.com/israelis-military-idf-civili...
I beg to differ.
* Russia sent missiles to Houthis just this year. Also assists with intelligence for attacks, at least according to https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/10/26/russia-provides-targ...
* The meeting where Putin says they have longstanding ties with Hamas: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/04/17/putin-meets-with-r...
Iran, well, we agree: they're very much aligned politically, seem to have shared weapon programs (rumor has it, Iran's Shahed drone == RF's Geran' drone).
Having said all that, I now realize that I must've misused the word ally to mean political sympathizer, my bad. I meant "closely aligned" more than anything, like when the Russian media says "Anglo-saxons" to describe the political bloc.
Re: Assuming that's true, should we extrapolate that too? -- Honestly, maybe? I don't have an opinion, much less an educated one.
The article says it didn't happen, just that maybe some people disembarked.
>The meeting where Putin says they have longstanding ties with Hamas
That's not exactly what he said: "Russia’s stable, long-term relationships with the Palestinian people, their representatives and various organizations". If you deal with Palestine you have to deal with Hamas. Russia has stable, long-term relationship with Israel too.
>I meant "closely aligned" more than anything
To some degree, what degree is that is debatable. It's more like the enemy of my enemy (the US) thing if you ask my opinion.
>rumor has it, Iran's Shahed drone == RF's Geran' drone
Russia used to import Shahed drones, than organized their production domestically with Iranian help, improved the design, greatly scaled the production, created a decoy version and a jet-powered version.
>Honestly, maybe? I don't have an opinion, much less an educated one.
I'd rather not extrapolate in both cases)
Even if you manage to hit it at that range there just isn’t enough kinetic power left to really do any damage.
For example here is a Finnish journalist being shot at 70m with birdshot. https://youtu.be/WJgzzrcSmNM?t=124 note that the shot did hit them but none managed to go trough the cardboard and normal civilian clothes were enough protection for other parts of the body.
Basically outside of drones that are trying to hit you (suicide fpv drones) birdshot is kinda useless as there isn't really any reason to fly them so close that they would be in effective range.
The spread will mean you likely won't hit what you are aiming at, but it is still dangerous.
You would not be able to hit a drone with a bullet. Statistics are against you.
You use fancy AHEAD ammunition that disintegrates, and hopefully the drone with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AHEAD_ammunition
Yet, the bursts fired are expensive as fuck. Much more expensive than the drone.
Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdwjcayPuag
What you linked seems like it would only be needed for an armored drone?
This AHDEA ammunition, while expensive, will bring down not only a drone, airplane or chopper, but also artillery grenades.
I suspect the same sort of skills displayed in Ukraine building home made Ardupilot based drones with optical final stage guidance could also be turned to building multi barrel "Phalanx-style" shotgun setups on manual plus computer-optical assisted aiming, in a form factor compact enough to be installed in the back of a Hilux. And that'd be very much the sort of mostly Commercial Off The Shelf approach that seems to do so well tipping the asymmetric warfare in Ukraine's favour in this war.
But we've seen infantry effectively using shotguns in Ukraine as a defensive weapon against drones for the same reason hunters use shotguns to shoot birds on the wing, within your weapon's range the odds of a disabling hit are pretty high if you're trained.
So not sure why it has to be either a rifle bullet _or_ a massively overengineered defense contractor's very expensive super-duper-shotgun round.
Haha, wait, it's flak guns again, just redone for the 21st century. Ah bless.
If the choice is restricted by stand-off range, that is a different kettle of fish, maybe do bring back the, once considered entirely obsoleted by high altitude aircraft and missiles flak.
But in the here and now, regular shotguns are being used defensively, with a certain level of success, by infantry against drones in Ukraine.
It's gray-zone warfare.
Here is a quote from a piece a front line defender in the Ukrainian Arm Forces wrote. His name is Maksym Zhorin
>Equally dangerous is the technological obsolescence of NATO countries and their inability to counter modern threats. Adequacy of response, means of combat, even simply understanding what real war looks like today — all of this is missing. Therefore, even a few drones have become a problem for them.
I don't know what the solution to drones are because everything is evolving in real time.
Same thing with drones. They are a game changer but then Russians figured out they can use drones too. Moreover, they were the first ones to field fiber optic drones. Those things are bonkers. As in, if someone told me "this defense company is creating fiber optic drones" I could have bet it's a corruption scheme as the idea just seems to implausible yet here it is, now both sides use them.
It would likely be a mistake to overfit what is happening in the Ukraine to US capabilities.
The Netherlands and Germany used to have old anti-air systems that were basically a tank undercarriage with a radar and two rapid fire machine guns. It was a system from the 1960s. Ineffective against fighter jets since those fly higher than the range of the guns, but a modern version of this would be cost effective against low tech drones.
You could build something like it using an existing armoured personnel carrier, fast movable gun and a modern radar sensor. It would be helpless against jets or tanks, but I think the way to use it would be to have high-tech air defense systems shoot the jets (with very expensive missiles) at long range and use these glorified air guns to shoot the drones at much closer range.
It has. Don't be fooled that just because you haven't seen it means it doesn't exist.
>The Netherlands and Germany used to have old anti-air systems that were basically a tank undercarriage with a radar and two rapid fire machine guns
The GEPARD. Every country has similar. Soviet countries had the Shilka vehicles, US built https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M163_VADS (and the Duster before it). Even before we put radar on these things, slapping a bunch of 50 cals on the back of a truck was standard, and Ukraine does that right now, to mild success.
Currently the US is building some https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centurion_C-RAM which is basically just a non-self propelled (but still technically mechanized) SPAAG, but is modern so it can even take out missiles and sometimes mortar shells! Also, Rheinmetall has been working on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyshield for quite some time, but holy shit is it pricey for what it is, and it uses special ammo too so that's sucky. Pretty much every arms manufacturer in Europe though is taking their default 30mm or 40mm cannon and slapping it and a generic small radar on whatever mobility platform they can find. The market is ravenous for it right now. It's just not a premier product though, as it's basically off the shelf hardware. Except for the US, who struggled and failed to make the M247 Sergeant York
The West's current plan to entirely null small drones and Shahed style things that fly slowly is the APKWS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Precision_Kill_Weapon...
The gyst is, you take dirt cheap ($3000) rockets that we have a million of, slap a $10k laser guidance package on them, and then use an F-literally whatever (or even helicopters) with bog standard targeting pods to click on a drone and make them go away. I don't think this is viable against DJIs with grenades but I'm pretty sure the plan for that is the MK-82 special delivered to any patch of warm on the FLIR
If you think that can't scale, understand that since WW2, the US's entire air strategy is "fly 1000 sorties all day every day forever". It's why the US doesn't actually have that much in terms of Anti-Air platforms. Their anti-air platform is 3000 planes. They also managed to actually execute such a strategy in the first Gulf War.
There's a lot happening in the Ukraine war that absolutely will not carry over, because you must understand that the Ukraine airspace is basically unused. Neither combatant has enough air power or anti-air systems to control the airspace, or to project air power. They mostly just have the occasional sortie to lob a bomb or launch cruise missiles. This would not be the case with NATO, as long as the US joins in.
IMO, the biggest oversight in the west is that we should be building roughly a billion copies of the Russian Krasnopol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnopol_(weapon_system) . The power of drones has been cheap precision. It used to be only the US had precision in quantity, but shitloads of drones with laser designators is a vast "democratization" of precision in weapons. The US has the Excalibur guided artillery shell, but it's been basically nulled out by GPS jamming and was too expensive anyway.
Some western countries have various more effective semi-guided artillery munitions, things like the BONUS round, but they're expensive, and it's nice to have a commodity version of "I point a laser at that square centimeter and am sure that it dies for like $30k"
I don't know why this didn't get realized in its original form. Maybe there was a practical impediment.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolaser
I does seem like a lot of stuff is needed. He's got 2 tons of capacitors in a stack 20 feet tall to get around 35 feet of range. He although he says:
"I was surprised at just how fast the plasma cannon range scaled with increasing drive voltage and how much explosive force the shock wave can deliver to target the data suggests that a plasma cannon with just a 30t high Marx Tower could achieve 1/4 mile range"
I know military contractors will have 3 or more orders of magnitude more money to throw at their technology demos, but I suspect there's some cold hard physics which shows it's totally impractical to defend anything more then very small high value targets with a system like that.
I'm not even sure that the people responsible for keeping airports safe and open care too much either. But no doubt there'll be pushback ranging from genuinely concerned anuimal rights people, through to completely unhinged conspiracy theorists. who make it difficult to build/test/deploy this sort of thing in civilian contexts.
People under treat will justify all sorts of things. It's up to everyone else to to balance whether their response is reasonable.
It's an over the top promotional video that feels like it's out of movie. Must have cost them plenty to make it. It's like porn for military gear.
Fascinating to me that making content like that presumably helps them sell.
If you have enough drones for a swarm, you'd realize that losing some of them to figure out the enemies' anti air defense range would be a viable strategy, which means you'll stop swarming them.
This would've worked in a world with no major conflict where the main enemy was a fictional one dreamed up by them to be especially vulnerable to the sort of system they make but we don't live in that world.
At 21:38 of the video (link above is timestampped), as the drone got hit by the microwave, one side of it's motors stopped/malfunctioned, which lead to asymmetric thrust, causing the drone to flip and fall. But the drone itself seemed still functional after the fall.
Not sure how much damage Epirus’ Leonidas could cause. My opinion is, if you want to anti-drone, you need to kill it fast, faraway and complete. If the vehicle is not agile enough, the drones will just go behind you. And if a drone can total a tank with ease, that armored carrier vehicle will not survive much hits.
Presumably this technology could also be used to make more efficient and powerful microwave ovens. Have any consumer appliance makers started using GaN semiconductors in their microwaves?
Varying the phase between multiple antennae can enable the field distribution inside the oven to be intelligently controlled to achieve homogeneous cooking results. Furthermore, by modifying the frequency and phase to match the food in the oven, very high RF energy delivery efficiency can be attained – above 90% even for small loads.
It has been demonstrated how a steak can be cooked on the same plate as ice cream without it melting, showing the precision of the directed RF energy. In practice, one gets outstanding control over internal meat temperature, with a tight tolerance of just one degree Celsius. Therefore, food can be cooked automatically, and one simply specifies the steak “doneness” level, for example, medium rare; and the oven will measure the food’s properties and calculate the required settings. Without having to manually enter the power levels, cooking is more predictable, and the interface more user-friendly
A consumer version is e.g. the Miele Dialog oven, costing $10K
Because the Russia-Ukraine war is so active, drones that can survive RF weapons can be expected essentially immediately. Ukraine fields a new generation of drones every three months. They have to.
[1] https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-tests-new-kamikaze-drone...
[2] https://dailygalaxy.com/2025/04/japan-has-successfully-used-...
Only tricky thing is if currents induced in motors are too hard to reject in driver circuitry, tho even at the extreme this should be possible to insulate with capacitors (or worse/heavier with transformers)
And all that stuff is a new supply chain and more weight which isn't payload.
That a countermeasure can be built doesn't mean it's necessarily effective to do so - your drones get less cheap, less numerous, you have to incorporate such systems into tactical and strategic planning.
cluster heads solve this beautifully because 1kg of high explosive kills everything good enough in 5 meters radius.
For comparison, the Excalibur GPS guided artillery shell was considered precision because it would hit within 5m reliably.
Compare to the lethal range of a 155mm, where the kill radius is 50m and casualty at 100m.
"That a countermeasure can be built doesn't mean it's necessarily effective to do so" applies especially to reading a corporate press release about a system doesn't even have a timeline for being on the battlefield.
It wouldn't, the only way to "shield" from magnetic fields is to get them to induce Eddy currents and but that requires more and more length and as the wavelength gets longer and essentially infinite for the Earth's field which is very slow moving.
> RF ground up there. "ground" is relative and not at all required for a Faraday cage to work.
The advantage of microwaves is that unlike lasers, kilowatt strong microwaves are easy to generate, it is an incredibly well studied problem, because that's how early radar systems worked. They are what secured the skies above London against the Nazi air force.
Israel seems to be trying another approach with lasers. They decided it doesn't matter if the laser is powerful, if you just have hundreds of 2W lasers aimed at the same target.
You also need to think through your cooling solution. Enclosed batteries, converters and motors will generate a lot of heat over typical mission, and you don't have the benefit of direct air cooling anymore.
At just a few GHz, metal mesh ought to be adequate for the cage material, so cooling isn’t necessarily a huge problem.
Many of the drones in the Russia-Ukraine war are powered by ICEs. I'm thinking of Ukraine's long range drones presently deleting Russia's refinery distillation towers, fixed radar installations, parked aircraft, ammo dumps, etc.
Those engines are not purely mechanical, but purely mechanical engines have been widespread and are still commonplace today. A 2-stroke diesel being one example, but even gas turbines can be purely mechanical. So one can imagine such an adaptation in response to microwave countermeasures.
If they could weaponize earthquakes instead, now that'd be brilliant.
>...state the origin of the conflict as if a sovereign people being invaded deserved it.
I've done noting of the sort. The origins of the conflict are more complex than your framing allows. Furthermore, as we attempt to describe those origins, it would be helpful if you didn't confuse that description of events with a prescription or endorsement of specific actors.
If we are unable to describe something coherently, we are unable to reason or have a reasonable discussion around it. Reasonable people should be able to hold distinct concepts in their mind simultaneously, even if they are seemingly contradictory from a surface level. As an example, we can and should be able to describe the events, speculate as to the underlying incentives of various parties and simultaneously hold moral principles which reject the use of violence.
Propaganda can sometimes mislead by conflating these things. This prevents reasonable discussion.
Just weirdly weirdly exactly the same themes and even the same words as the actual declaration of war by the aggressor nation - Russia[1].
But you know. No agency whatsoever or something. Just straight up impossible for the 2nd largest nuclear power on the planet not to invade a neighboring sovereign state in a war of conquest.
[1] https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/full-text-putin-s-declar...
Professor John Mearsheimer of the realist school has some hour long lectures on the topic of Ukraine. Some even precede the war itself. Obviously as a disclaimer, I do not agree with everything he has to say. You can pick and choose which sources or interviewers better appeal to your partisan biases. I won't choose for you, as you might dismiss it based on the source. That said, he's spoken with everyone from Amy Goodman on "Democracy Now!" to the Hoover Institution.
You might consider how your framing of super weird Russian propaganda applies to his lectures and interviews.
Let's go back to the poster's super weird assertion. By definition, a provocation is something which results in a response. Observing that it is a provocation isn't the same as endorsing the response. Knee jerk categorization doesn't remove this discernment. Instead it misleads by glossing over the details. I would regard that to be a byproduct of propaganda.
Fiber lasers can direct 10's-100's of kW of power almost continuously and with a range of several km with proper optics:
https://youtu.be/BkbVeA4Lejc
https://youtu.be/lFMvesTUjAA
https://youtu.be/eFiDYFnlp7s
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