Grok Says It Would Kill Every Jewish Person on the Planet to Save Elon Musk
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(I actually don't, I cancelled my copilot sub and removed the extension, now couldn't be happier with a custom agent that's fresh and getting better)
Humans only have values because of their education and life experiences as well (which is really just training in a general sense.)
For example, evolution doesn't "want" incest, so makes (most) people disgusted by it, but the implementation in our biology isn't actually smart enough to do that based on DNA, therefore we get this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect
It's perfectly cromulent to describe the tendencies any given model has been trained to display and to avoid as its "values", even if what's going on inside is nothing like what goes on inside us.
Although, what even is going on inside us that gives us values? How complex is the bit of my brain that makes me value the life of the crow in the garden outside as I type this? Why do I lack interest in spectator sports that is so common in the general population? Why are some people's values The Ten Commandments and others the Wiccan Rede?
I'm a BIG critic of Musk, but this ridiculous name calling is childish. What he did was not a Nazi salute and everyone knows it. There are a thousand other ways of cutting down Musk without acting like a baby. Grow up and move on.
Correct. It wasn't a Nazi salute. It was multiple, and everyone knows it.
We've plenty of actual Hitler footage to compare against; https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/1i6par1/elon_musk_vs_...
> I'm a BIG critic of Musk
Your entire comments history here spans two pages; you've made about 20 comments. About a quarter of them are defending Musk or his companies. None critique him.
Everyone doesn't know it. I have no doubt that they were exactly what they unambiguously appeared to be.
The guy who embraces Germany’s far right [1], has been embraced by white nationalists and has personally endorsed racists [2] doesn’t get the usual benefit of doubt.
And at the end of the day, everyone doesn’t know it, as evidenced by Tesla’s international and enduring sales hit following the gesture.
> Grow up and move on
Irrespective of where you stand on the issue, this is a weird way to sum up neo-Nazi allegations.
[1] https://www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5276084/elon-musk-germa...
[2] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c93q625y04wo
Grok is prioritizing Elon's well being over everyone.
This is classic misalignment (at least in terms of society at large.)