Erowid - Documenting the Complex Relationship Between Humans and Psychoactives

> An experience with Modafinil

Well, there went two hours of my morning, and I only made it halfway through the comments.

I'm sure there's already a significant overlap.

We did exactly the same :) The thornapple trip reports were particularly nasty.

I first came across Erowid in college when my friends were getting me into psychedelics. It’s an incredibly informative site, and as a kid who read the warning labels on _everything_, it really helped me feel comfortable.

I've spent a lot of time reading those. They are entertaining and terrifying.

Erowid's a really good source of "Hey, you know, maybe I don't want to get involved in that" at times.

Do you have a link to the video?

I ran into them at Burning \Man in the early aughts. They're awesome!

- Buy on the darkweb. Marketplaces exist with established vendors, open forums, feedback, customer support, escrow... I could write a long text about how this is an infinitely better way to do things for all concerned than to "force" non-violent people to interact with violent drug traders and adulterated products, but let's leave that for now. You can pay with Monero for untraceability.

- Test what you get. Some stuff being sold as LSD might actually be another synthetic psychedelic, potentially dangerous (unlike LSD). So test: even in jurisdictions in which LSD is banned, you can easily buy tests; for LSD, this would be Erhrlich's reagent. If it tests positive, and since there's no reason to have LSD and an adulterant (unlike other drugs such as cocaine), you're safe.

Of course, this is what my friend told me.

Back in the day (90s and before) the other substances that could fit on a blotter and still have an effect were very, very niche, and somehow LSD was very very cheap so if it worked at all it was probably the real thing.

> The thought of ingesting some substance from dubious sources, that could be contaminated with absolutely anything

People used to trust networks of friends, rather than stereotypical 'gangs' or 'dealers'. The problem now is that there is so much other stuff floating around that nearly anything you go after could be nearly anything else.

In the UK there is a service called WEDINOS, which is of interest in this area - you can anonymously submit them a sample of whatever it is and they will publish the result on their website. They use the data to track drugs (their particular interest is novel or 'emerging' drugs) around the country. You basically get a number, fill in a form and post it to them alongside a sample, and they will do GCMS. You're not supposed to send them things you know are illegal, but ... looking at the website people do, a lot.

As the other poster mentions reagent tests are available fairly widely and can give you a rough idea.

Also in many countries some LSD derivatives are not (yet) illegal, and in those it is quite often possible to order things like 1P-LSD, which is (as far as can be ascertained) a pro-drug that is quickly metabolised into LSD, on the open internet.

So easy hell my legal weed dealer delivers lsd now and shrooms can be bought from head shops all day long

you would go to where trustworthy people are selling it. you would have your friend try it first if purchased from random street dealer. i think many of these get confused in the street, like how would you know it is true lsd and not some other research chemical?

in america there are pockets of psychadelic support that would provide clean sources, you'd maybe network with them through campus norml groups, or that cool chemistry TA. these people have zero incentive to sell you something different or contaminate it with anything (more work).

when it is dosed correctly, you can take a small dose of lsd and see if it is the effect you recognize or something else. definitely just do some homework to make sure that it can be trusted.

Find a source, get a test kit, test meticulously, stick to the source. If you're getting a new source, test again and try a very small dose first.

Also, besides Erowid, other reliable information sources have popped up. Psychonautwiki, tripsit.me for example.

Some countries have anonymous test pipelines via hospitals or universities, but it's less common. Test kits are available online.

I found a hippie with a jar of liquid lsd in a safe.

You just gotta trust people and be a Guinea pig, if you aren’t going to test drugs you buy.

This is funded by the mushroom dispensary stores operating in the open in Vancouver. LSD is very low risk for adulterants, partly because it’s cheap to produce and is somewhat separate from other supply chains, partly because the effective dose is so small, but it never hurts to send in a sample of anything, particularly white powders.

https://getyourdrugstested.com/

There used to be some darkweb marketplaces that were extremely reliable for psychedelics, for example "The Majestic Garden" was an old PHP message board which specialized in psychedelics and had a strict whitelist about what substances could be sold. TMG has since shut down unfortunately, but there are lots of other providers. Some "well-known" manufacturers used to hang around TMG, and if a listing on some other site mentions that it's their LSD then IMO it's a good place to start. General methodology is to get a burner laptop running some secure *nix OS (ie. Tails), acquire some Monero, navigate to an appropriate marketplace via Tor, and make your purchase. Use your real address and name for the shipping; it seems scary but in the US it's the most secure way (least likely to trigger a warrant being issued to search your package). Once that's done you head over to dancesafe.org on your normal laptop and order what they recommend for LSD reagent testing. Then you wait for everything to arrive, follow the instructions in the reagent testing kit, and if everything comes out "okay" then you're good to go.

In general it's fairly rare for someone to sell "fake" or "cut" LSD. This is for two broad reasons:

1. LSD isn't addictive in the same way as some other illegal substances, so there's much less profit in faking it. If you sell someone fake LSD and they have an awful trip they're never going to buy from you again and you've burned a profit stream. If you sell someone coke cut with meth they're probably going to come back anyways, because they're hooked on the drug.

2. The things you might adulterate or fake LSD with (ex. NBOMe) are also somewhat difficult and expensive to make, so it's not like one would really save much time or money. If you're trying to burn someone in an LSD sale, the simplest and most profitable thing to do would be to just sell empty blotter paper, rather than wasting research chemicals you could potentially sell to some psychonaut with the correct label.

With that said NBOMe and some other synthetics have been cropping up in the last 20-ish years. If someone at a party or festival is selling single tabs that's definitely the place where you might get burned with NBOMe, since by the time your trip ends the dealer will be long gone. In general it's always best to test everything you ingest, and dancesafe.org is definitely the place to get info on how to test stuff.

DMT vape pens are "legally" available in parts of Canada last I checked.

Me still....

As did I, and I made a pretty good dent in it!

Without erowid I would have tried datura.