China Releases 'ubios' Standard to Replace Uefi – Huawei-Backed Bios Replacement

Posted3 months agoActive3 months ago

xbmcuser

17 points

3 comments

tomshardware.comTechstory

calmneutral

Debate

10/100

BiosUefiChina Tech Sovereignty

Key topics

Bios

Uefi

China Tech Sovereignty

China has released the 'UBIOS' standard, a Huawei-backed replacement for UEFI firmware, sparking discussion around China's domestic computing goals and the implications for the tech industry.

Snapshot generated from the HN discussion

Discussion Activity

Light discussion

First comment

Peak period

4-5h

Avg / period

Key moments

01Story posted
Oct 24, 2025 at 5:32 PM EDT
3 months ago
Step 01
02First comment
Oct 24, 2025 at 9:34 PM EDT
4h after posting
Step 02
03Peak activity
1 comments in 4-5h
Hottest window of the conversation
Step 03
04Latest activity
Oct 25, 2025 at 5:32 AM EDT
3 months ago
Step 04

Generating AI Summary...

Analyzing up to 500 comments to identify key contributors and discussion patterns

Discussion (3 comments)

Showing 3 comments

burnt-resistor

3 months ago

1 reply

Sowing the seeds for war with yet another ethnonationalist supremacy signal of separation with NIH. Present day leadership of China, Russia, and Israel (and DPRK too.) are merely echoing American and Third Reich "superpower" expansionist aspirations. Human nature hasn't changed and never will, hence history will always rhyme.

hakfoo

3 months ago

1 reply

It's interesting that they actually did the work, though.

One alternative way to reduce their dependency on foreign platform vendors would be to blow the existing market up. Coreboot and similar exist, and if they got a state-sized injection of resources, they could reasonably drive vendors like Phoenix and AMI out of the market, leaving behind an ecosystem without any particular dominant player.

There is a solid argument for UEFI being a terrible mess, so if they want to leverage a "remove foreign dependencies" as motivation to make something better, more power to them.

burnt-resistor

3 months ago

It started with the IBM PC and manual configuration -> PNP -> PCI -> ACPI -> and then finally, UEFI, subsuming ACPI and EFI. It's what happens when something is designed by committee and has to provide backward compatibility, it becomes Turing complete and produces a document 1131 pages long. It's the worst standard that's been tried, except for every other. If it would've been developed for a green field by a smaller committee who cared about simplicity in a different reality then would've been better, but it's what we have that exists here and how.

The issues of forking are: fragmentation, balkanization, and reinventing a wheel that already exists. Microsoft sure a shit ain't going to support it. It makes OS and hardware support for everyone else more difficult. They're locking themselves in and shutting the door to the rest of the world.

If it's so "terrible", then you're free to write your own and get OS and hardware vendors to support it, otherwise you maybe frivolously complaining about reality.

View full discussion on Hacker News

ID: 45699324Type: storyLast synced: 11/20/2025, 3:32:02 PM

Want the full context?

Jump to the original sources

Read the primary article or dive into the live Hacker News thread when you're ready.

Open link View on HN