Bmw Kills Home Assistant Integration to “protect Security” [video]
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BMW removed its Home Assistant integration, citing security concerns, sparking debate among users about the company's true motives and the impact on consumers.
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Edit: I don't like it either.
Wow, insulting others when you clearly have no clue what you are talking about.
In the EU a license agreement cant override your consumer rights. If the car was marketed as having a cardata feature and now that feature is restricted, under EU law you are entitled for it to be restored or fairly compensated - which could mean returning the car if it was a marketed feature and a major factor in the purchasing decision - although it’s more likely to be a monetary compensation for minor features. There’s even specific guidance for “digital elements” of products to cover things exactly like this.
I haven’t returned a car, but I have either returned or requested compensation for other consumer items for similar reasons - and was compensated fairly given their use.
>> Why should a car be different in regards to software than your washing machine, tv or iPhone?
The car shouldn't be different from the washing machine, the TV, and the iPhone. I should get a refund if functionality is removed from any of them after purchase.
We don't need to 'sue' as we aren't Americans.
Strong consumer rights laws in the UK and EU mean that if goods are not as described and/or become disabled or are not of reasonable quality, it is straight forward to either reject the goods (and get a full refund) or claim appropriate compensation for your losses.
This cannot override your rights as a consumer. If I sell you a service, I'm required to provide you that service as agreed upon at time of purchase for the duration of the contract.
>How can you be so pedantic but at the same time so naive?
This is hardly pedantic.
I don't like it either but it is what it is.
There appears to be no regulation protecting consumers from this abusive behavior. If it does exist it is not enforced whatsoever.
Philips is the perfect example, as I managed to get all my Hue equipment refunded to around 80% of the purchase price 2 years after the purchase.
They refused so I initiated a small claim, which they lost because they breached consumer law.
It’s not rocket science. The problem is that many consumers aren’t aware of their rights, so do nothing about it.
That said I applaud you for taking them to charge. Good for you. I assume you had to return the devices? I wonder how this would work for people who invested 5, 7, 10+ years ago. I would hope the same.
I'm also not convinced BMW specifically marketed integration with Home Assistant vs generic integrations with say Alexa or Google Home or whatever Apple calls theirs. And I'll expect the small print to say that third-party integrations are not guaranteed.
> There must be some more serious article about that.
If only there was a searchable information highway of some sort that we could find the information we want rather than complain. Maybe someday.
It's not the kind of valuable critical piece of information that deserves 100% of my attention and brain processing power in order to warrant for me to dedicate time of my day just to read it and only it, that's for books with a story arc.
> dedicate time of my day
Saving precious 5 minutes on reading, just to spend them later on Instagram reels.
Fancy? Talks? Is this the 1800s? I don't like winding up my gramophone, either...
When I'm drinking my coffee I focus on enjoying the palate, when I'm reading I am laser-focused on processing and retaining information.
Multitasking prevents me from attaining the full benefits of these exquisite activities. If need a mindless task while I'm sipping my morning brew I can always count primes backwards or stare at the other hipster in the coffee shop.
Then... instead of sixteen words that complain and do nothing for yourself or others in this thread, type half the words into your favorite search engine and post a better link.
I'm not even asking you to write the article you expected someone else to post for you, but ... you could even do that. Just a thought to ponder over your next hot steamy cup.
> you expected someone else to post for you
I'm flattered you've felt obliged to, but that wasn't my intention. What I expect are quality materials on the home page. No, a random YT link without a context isn't a quality material, that's what 9GAG is for.
I didn’t have time to make much use of it, but I’m still quite sad to see it go. It was nice to be able to glance at the current range, tire pressure, and overall status right from home.
The same stats will be available in the application but, with this gone, we are again, an internet that is even more closed and fenced.
Thanks OP for the post,I will use at a conference yet another example of companies that are not competent in security and in case of problems go the legal way or cut stuff.
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