Big Tech Needs $2t in AI Revenue by 2030
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A lot of parallels here to infrastructure buildouts leading up to the .com implosion. A lot of dark fiber got dusted off later and used, but unclear if the present buildout of GPUs will have similar decades-long utility.
Off the top of my head I think that he might’ve gotten inference costs wrong in an article and then corrected it, but usually I don’t see many people poking holes in his numbers.
>By the end of the year, Microsoft, Amazon, Google and Meta will have spent over $400bn in capital expenditures, much of it focused on building AI infrastructure, on top of $228.4bn in capital expenditures in 2024
but doesn't mention those companies made over $320bn profit in 2024 so they are not really going bust over this stuff.
https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/
You can see how HN ate up that article back in the day - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40133976
Does NVIDIA care if the company that bought their chips cannot make money using their chips? As long as the company's money is transferred into NVIDIA's accounts, that's all that matters to NVIDIA.
Those sort of circular deals, at the scale they’re happening, is one of the things that’s freaking folks out at the moment.
That’s before even getting into the fact that many of these gpu purchases were partially funded by equity.
The wealth of a small set of banks is essentially the total money that's lent out. The wealth of a set of banks PLUS the government literally is the total money lent out. In other words: if houses start being owned "naked" (meaning no mortgage), either through bankruptcy or just paying off the loan, that's when banks
So let's say you have a circular loan. Nvidia -> MS -> OpenAI -> Nvidia. You have just created money (since it won't ever be paid back), and what you're dependent on is the valuation of the companies in the chain going up always, there is some leeway of course but it can't really drop.
If the money keeps circulating, the money "rotating" effectively becomes money these companies can spend (whether on stock buybacks or extra chips or management raises or ...) You hopefully also see that you or I, or anyone external cannot cause this situation to collapse, only the companies in the chain can (but have extreme incentives not to). The system collapses, of course, if one of these companies goes bankrupt, but until then there's nothing that can stop it.
And because of this it will make those companies "Too big to fail".
If OpenAI gets their $500B back, they don't care that everyone else lost $1.5T.