Berkshire Hathaway Announces Leadership Appointments [pdf]
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Berkshire Hathaway's recent leadership appointments have sparked a lively debate about Warren Buffett's legacy and the conglomerate's future performance. While some commenters, like Traubenfuchs, lamented the market's lukewarm response to the news, others, such as gbacon, saw it as an inevitable transition given Buffett's unparalleled talent. As the discussion unfolded, participants dug into Berkshire's historical performance, with some, like lotsofpulp and findjashua, presenting data showing that BRK-B has outperformed the S&P 500 over the long term, while others, like StopDisinfo910, questioned the value proposition of investing in Berkshire over a simple index fund. The conversation revealed a consensus that Buffett's successor will face significant challenges in replicating his outsized returns, with many echoing Buffett's own warnings about Berkshire's size and the merits of index fund investing.
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That said, I'll note this quote from Buffett:
>“I'm somewhat embarrassed to say that Tim Cook has made Berkshire a lot more money than I've ever made,” Buffett told the audience, referencing the remarkable 680% surge in Apple's stock since Berkshire first began acquiring shares in early 2016.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/warren-buffett-says-embarrass...
When it comes to Buffett (and Berkshire), it's really only reasonable to look at 5-year returns. 1-year or YTD are too susceptible to market sentiment rather than true value. Eg the Buffett indicator (stock market value / GDP) is 2x std dev above the norm right now -- way overpriced by historical standards.
https://dqydj.com/sp-500-return-calculator/
https://dqydj.com/stock-return-calculator/?ticker=BRK-B
If my goal is to not sell for a decade or more, I'm not sure what BRK offers over SP500, except more risk.
> If my goal is to not sell for a decade or more, I'm not sure what BRK offers over SP500, except more risk.
I think you have already answered your own question. Historically, BRK-B has very often outperformed the SP500.
Plus, their investment philosophy is pretty clear. It's a solid alternative if you distrust tech which is today very heavy in the SP500.
Huh? The point I was trying to make that the returns seem to equalize the further back we go.
> It's a solid alternative if you distrust tech which is today very heavy in the SP500.
The only reason BRK kept up with SP500 over the last 20 years is because of its outsized investment in Apple in 2016 or so, after the disastrous results of sitting out of tech in the 2000s and early 2010s and pursuing other investments such as Kraft Heinz or whatever.
As of September 2025, Apple is still 21% of BRK's publicly listed holdings:
https://www.cnbc.com/berkshire-hathaway-portfolio/
Except this not factually true.
BRK-B has outperformed the SP500 on pretty much every time horizon and as you have pointed it significantly does so in the last 5 years.
> As of September 2025, Apple is still 21% of BRK's publicly listed holdings:
Tech is 34% of the SP500.
There is valid reasons to prefer SP500 ETF in a diversified portfolio. Hoping to it will perform better with less risk based on historical data is not one of them.
What % of AAPL is a highly-leveraged bet on AI, in comparison to those listed above? If you could only own 1 of those over the previous and incoming 10 years, it'd be challenging to not choose Apple, with maybe Google as second (albeit with a sizable regulatory asterisk).
I know there's a tendency to reduce everything to numbers, but Berkshire is playing a qualitatively completely different risk management game from the rest of the companies in the top 10 in the S&P 500 right now.
Edit: selfishly, I think you have more to gain from understanding why BRK chose to invest in Apple, than you do from aiming to "explain away" BRK as unremarkable.
If you're trying to choose where to lazily (i.e. with as little mental effort as possible) stash away your investments, that's a separate discussion. Buffet himself recommends S&P 500. But BRK is playing a fundamentally different game from the S&P. An investment in VOO vs an investment in BRK support very different theses.
You can discount Apple as being part of the portfolio, but that's a bit like saying, well they wouldn't have done so well if we remove the high performing stocks in the portfolio.
My employer uses a shitty HSA provider (Healthequity) who doesn't provide any sort of tax reporting, and I live in a state that taxes HSAs. Investing in BRK.B instead of a broad fund is a bit riskier, but it saves me from spending an hour tabulating individual transactions when I do my taxes
You don’t even have to send anything to HealthEquity, if I recall correctly. Just send Fidelity the Transfer of Assets form and they do it all:
http://fidelity.com/toa
I would make sure all the funds in HealthEquity are cash though, just to make things easier and reduce error.
Another user posted the difference between sp500 and Berkshire returns in the last 2 decades. Starting with 10k in one case you end up with 160, in the other at 240. And if the 2% delta stays there, it's going to compound even further.
Also, standard deviation on Berkshire is lower than the SP500, so the second is riskier.
> BRK-B's 5 year return is 2% per year more than SP500.
That said, 2% per year is generally considered a lot in diversified mutual fund / ETF land. You might not be able to charge hedge-fund level 2-and-20 fees for delivering that, but you could certainly charge multiples of what the low-cost indexers do (instead, Berkshire charges you approximately nothing). Now, Berkshire is a conglomerate, not a fund, and you could argue 2% is an appropriate risk premium for a single stock, even one as diverse as Berkshire (which is still less diverse than the S&P). But it is pretty impressive for something that is not a tech company. Those are the only things in the S&P that seem to be generating any returns these days (besides Berkshire, JP Morgan is the only other non-tech company with a market cap over $1tn, and arguably banks really are tech companies now, too).
> Apple is still 21% of BRK's publicly listed holdings
The public company investments are a minority of Berkshire's current value. The majority comes from wholly-owned operating companies and insurance businesses.
Equity markets have been historically negative or flat even for 14 years (most recently 12 between 2000 and 2012).
Maybe the OP thought this was announcing Buffett's successor or that Buffett himself was stepping down?
I guess the one big thing is that Todd Combs is out at Geico which is pretty bad news for the firm as he was tremendous at running Geico and helping Buffett and Munger in an investment capacity.
Who ever gets the new CIO role at Berkshire is going to have a field day. They currently hold about $382B in cash.
You can invest in alot with a 1/3 of Trillion dollars and you can outright buy the vast majority of companies with a bank roll that big.
My theory is that Buffett is hoping for one last large crash before he retires so he can go shopping for distressed companies.
With so many long term people announcing they will be leaving within the next 2 years this announcement sets the table nicely for a new CEO(probably Greg Abel) and new CIO to pick their team.
https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/news/nov1025.pdf
There was a video of a QA session with him recently where he was asked something like that and he answered (paraphrased) "we are keeping cash so that we can buy cheap things when they come up. Some people think I'm waiting so Greg Abel(?) can have a nice opportunity when he takes over, but I'm not that nice, if I see something I will buy it". And reiterated the commonly stated idea that Charlie Munger thought they'd have done better if they only ever made ~5 carefully chosen investments in the lifetime of the company, and that investing too freely, quickly, often, was a bad idea.
I think that leaves a difficult situation for the next CEO, people are going to expect them to do something and probably the best thing they can do is as much nothing as possible, reading, watching and waiting. Without Buffet and Munger's history of that it might be hard to defend.
I can't imagine how often he's repeated "We want enough cash to be able to buy something, and we're waiting until something is cheap" over the last 40 years, but people going to their investor conferences don't all seem to have internalised it.
Wonder if he can pull it just as he did with Solomon Brothers
He has been a role model in many areas of my life and it hurts to see how his best friends and wife died already. would have loved seen Charlie reach 100 years old age.
Visited Buffet's home in Omaha and accepted a well lived life can be one following your own set of values, specially when they do not conform to the normal.
I know more about Buffet and Munger lifes than my own grandparents whom died relatively young in my childhood. Cannot explain how anything related to Charlie and Warren had hit me, I think they really feel like close wise elders in my spirit
The only unusual element I saw were some ropes deliberately blocking off the driveway. From a prior news article, I was aware he employed a PSD, but I didn't see any obvious security presence on the property--likely they're very deliberately low-key.
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/warren-buffett-hosts-15-whar...
I "visited" Buffet's house about a decade ago or so when I drove from Chicago to the Bay Area to move there.
"Visited" is rather generous - I went by it, saw some security, took some selfies and pics, and paid my respects at the Steakhouse :) Now I wish I had sought an opportunity to visit him in person.
Anyhow... BRKB has been in my portfolio for 20+ years. (Now dwarfed by other Tech equity)
Since this post is about financial investments, equity trading and M&A activities, I wonder is anyone shorting AI stocks to profit from the current bubble? I would be interested on people's stance (yes/no/why), and which instruments they use (if yes).
Everybody always talks about Buffet and late Charlie Munger, but they also knew how to hire talents like Todd Combs and Ted Weschler.