Things I've Heard Boomers Say That I Agree with 100%
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In all cases it should be a website, not a "download our app"
There are no adverts on netflix, and I have a lot of subscriptions, but its still less (pro-rata) than I paid for satelite tv with adverts in the 00s.
I'm surprised there isn't the complaint about over tipping. And the fact there is now inflation in tipping percentages.
Increasingly often, it is "download our app". And they will try to force it by sabotaging their website. I did a pickup order from Walmart once. You're supposed to take a numbered parking place and check in, but if you try it from the website on a mobile, it'll redirect you to download the app. There's no getting around it. I don't recall if I tried desktop mode on the website, but the website is a pretty cluttered widescreen mess anyway. (Fortunately at the parking area there's a phone number for checking in posted.)
I run into similar sabotage issues with Facebook (yes I am just a year or so shy of being a boomer). You can no longer use messaging on mobile, it tells you to download the app. Desktop mode does work, though (for now; I'm sure someone will try to take it away). All this stuff used to work on phones.
Amazon prime has ads.
Just wait
As such I don't subscribe.
If a restaurant does not have a printed menu, I leave and go elsewhere. Luckily were I live, QR Menus are very rare.
The base ($7.99) Netflix plan does indeed have ads.
Yes, and please make the website one that actually works on mobile.
In some restaurants, I've seen the QR code go to a full-page PDF version of the menu. Like, thanks, but I can't read that on a mobile device.
I worry about bad actors placing their own QR codes over the official ones to redirect people to sites to steal the money, payment day, or both.
I don’t think this makes sense.
Neither does most of the article. Being upset about 2FA considering how incredibly easy it is? Pretty dumb write up. Lotsy of cheugy humor that's not really funny, as well.
I’ve seen very minor “door prizes” that say, thanks for attending this event, etc. But this “participation trophy” canard has coasted for 30+ years now.
It can't be both.
If you go to some youth sports league, it is common that every kid will get a medal or trophy regardless of which team in the league won or lost.
But it also exists for adults. Go to the NYC marathon? Everyone gets a medal. I’ve participated in a lot of organized bicycle rides. The rides aren’t even competitive like the marathon is. They are not races. But at the finish line everyone gets a medal regardless of what distance they rode, or how quickly.
The harsh truth about the participation trophies is that boomers complain about them the most, but they are the ones responsible for them! I’m a millennial. I remember being in a youth basketball league in middle school. Our team did not win. At the final day, every kid on every team got a tiny trophy. I was very confused by this at the time. I expected only the best team to get anything. But who was running that league and decided to hand out those trophies?! Our boomer parents!
A participation trophy is for finishing a sports season, or finishing an event (maybe a martial arts event, maybe a marathon). Finishing is something that can be especially challenging to finish/comit to week after week as a kid when your team isn't even winning, or you know you have zero chance of coming in first.
Not everyone that starts at the line gets a medal because there are people that don't finish and they don't get their medal.
Once you start moralizing about only winners should get medals or trophies, then you have to start looking at arbitrary distinctions like men's and women's different divisions, age divisions, weight divisions, pro versus amateur, college versus high school.
Really the extension of logic is that only the champion of a given sport or event at the very highest level should get a trophy.
I think what rubs a lot of people about youth sports participation trophies, is that you're basically rewarding just showing up, well devaluing actual focus training preparation or genetic advantage of the better players.
I see folks get "participation trophies" all the time, they come in different forms.
Although, the only place I've seen them is in a company whose HQ is in the US. So maybe that is more of a US thing too.
To be honest, I never saw them as a participation reward. Everyone hates doing the damn things in the first place, nobody cares about getting the certificate.
Part of my brain thinks it is a racket. The organizer buys them for $X and sells them to the event for a multiple. If that isn't the case, it still makes sense for whoever makes them to promote the idea, because they get to sell more of them that way.
At least race participation shirts have some utility.
There are a handful of people who enter these events trying to win. They get money. For the rest of us, finishing represents a victory over the couch, that pint of ice cream, or general malaise towards bettering ourselves.
So I’ll take that finishing medal and be proud of it.
Besides, the same boomer generation who complains about participation trophies is the same generation who invented them.
But yeah, it mostly gives proof / bragging rights that you finished it.
It sure as hell didn't happen in most places in Kentucky or Georgia.
This was back in the 90s.
In something like a foot race, I get it. Most people running a marathon aren’t trying to win, they are just trying to finish, or hit their personal targets. They can still have a “win” without coming in first. But in a sport where there is a clear winner and loser, I felt insulted getting a trophy just for showing up. At 11 or 12 I already felt too old to be treated like that.
So many anti-participation trophy tough guys wear these participation trophies all the time. Vietnam hat? Participation trophy. Fun run shirt? Participation trophy. Iron man shirt? Participation trophy. Police/military challenge coin? Participation trophy. Facebook picture post of an event you did? Believe it or not, participation trophy.
But then it's given to a kid? Beyond the pale! Ridiculous! Why give them a memory/momento that they played baseball, that they showed up to sparing event, or did a form demo in front of judges. All things very intimidating to kids. I remember showing up to pee-wee football after doing badly in the game. As a kid it was intimidating to show up after doing poorly. That stuff can be as mentally pushing themselves as a marathon for an adult. Such a weird/small/toxic mindset to criticize rewarding that behavior, or thinking the kids that showed up all season for a losing team didn't accomplish anything.
There was a vendor at the tournament selling throwing stars and stuff. I got one of those. That was my momento from the event (which I still have a know exactly where it is decades later). It was something I wanted that I wouldn’t have got had I not pushed myself to show up. Running across that is a fond memory, while running across that participation trophy brings up pretty terrible memories.
I’m not against rewarding pushing yourself for showing up, but as a kid, the trophy was the wrong reward for me, it felt insulting. An event t-shirt would have felt much better.
Surely after years of screaming about participation trophies there should be some evidence that this harmed kids if it were a real thing, right?
I could argue that harmed me. I never entered another tournament after that. The walk to pick up that trophy is a core memory, and one that I didn’t want to relive at any future events. Had I gone, lost, but got a cool shirt, I probably would have been down to get more cool shirts. Had I gone to more, maybe I could have improved and won a trophy that actually meant something.
When people screech about participation trophies being modern degeneracy I want to see actual data demonstrating some real harm. Because from where I sit I see a nice thing being done for children and joy coming from that.
We had them in the 1980s in elementary school, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participation_trophy says the practice is over a century old, and the "backlash against participation trophies intensified in the 1990s."
There's no need to take my work for it. The Arlington Heights Daily Herald Suburban Chicago (1975-11-28) article at https://archive.org/details/arlington-heights-daily-herald-s... describes how every soccer team member at a high school got a participation trophy.
Speaking of ribbons, the same Wikipedia page points out "the US military has awarded ribbons to anyone who participates in surface combat".
McConnell in "Rapid Development" points out how Microsoft in the 1990s used nonmonetary awards to boost morale. https://archive.org/details/rapiddevelopment00mcco/page/270/...
"I spent a year at Microsoft working on Windows 3.1. During that time, I received three team T-shirts, a team rugby shirt, a team beach towel, and a team mouse pad. I also took part in a team train ride and a nice dinner on the local "Dinner Train" and another dinner at a nice restaurant. If I had been an employee, I would also have received a few more shirts, a Microsoft watch, a plaque for participating in the project, and a big Lucite "Ship-It" award for shipping the project. The total value of this stuff is probably only two or three hundred dollars, but as Tom Peters and Robert Waterman say, companies with excellent motivation don't miss any opportunity to shower their employees with nonmonetary rewards."
Those are all participation awards, yes?
I know as a kid I never gave two poops about 'em. They felt condescending.
Most people get A's and don't learn that much, teachers are punished for giving bad grades, a lot of people graduate without much added knowledge or skill.
I would prefer no grades, but telling so many people they're doing top notch work when they aren't is a problem.
Doing stuff is great. Doing stuff and sucking at it is great. Who cares?
LED headlight retrofit kits are probably what should be illegal, that’s where you get the poorly aimed and overly bright headlights.
I haven't replaced my lights for an extended period and am wondering if that's why they are dim, but if they burned out that fast they were probably getting some kind of contamination on the bulbs (which concentrates the heat).
https://www.theautodoc.net/blog/why-do-headlights-become-clo...
The other problem is that some bulbs are just not very good - the filaments aren't properly positioned, or they don't have a good spectral output.
3M has a kit for polishing the haze off headlights with a drill, and for restoring the UV protection layer [0]. Dan Stern [1] told me it's really better to just get a new OEM headlight.
[0] https://www.amazon.com/3M-39008-Headlight-Restoration-System...
[1] https://www.danielsternlighting.com/
But I generally agree - ever since I got PRK eye surgery ultra white car lights are hard for me to handle. My wife has always been sensitive to light (she has lighter eyes), so that goes to show that there's certainly a range of tolerance for this and it's really a safety issue.
Inspections are a good idea, but I'd like to see some control over what can be sold to prevent the installation in the first place.
Blue-white headlights are actually much less functional for human vision than yellow/amber headlights, so the engineers had to use the regulatory loophole to exponentially increase the output of their marketing-imposed blue-white lights.
Inspections don’t help; any slight variations in road angle puts someone in direct sight of correctly adjusted headlights. Unadjusted headlights aren’t the problem, and probably never will be, unlike the old headlights. Most LED headlights are relatively new and perfectly adjusted (and are designed to stay adjusted forever.)
I don’t know the whole story, but I heard that Europe has widely adopted dynamic masking on LED headlights and that in the US, lobbying of some sort is preventing adoption. I would LOVE if we had such a thing… or some fancy night goggles that could mask all bright points without masking anything dark (or maybe even boost the darks)… I would be willing to pay a lot of money for that.
Edit: a search just informed me that the headlight laws changed in 2022, and dynamic masking is coming here. https://www.mcnicholaslaw.com/adaptive-driving-beams-on-the-...
If so, they are widely adopted here in the EU but only for full beams not the regular headlights.
Ah too bad if it doesn’t apply to low beams… LED low beams are still extremely problematic.
The search results are telling me that dynamic masking in the US will only apply to low beams and not high beams. Maybe that’s a good thing? I’m just hoping the situation will get better somehow.
Definitely, I'd love for that here in the EU as well. With it being pitch black half of the year here in Sweden I'm constantly blinded by LED low beams to the point that high traffic country roads are becoming very difficult.
However, LED matrix / dynamic high beams is also a godsend. On a country road, you can keep your high beams on and they will disable the pixels that would blind the other drivers, but still light up the side of the road where deers and moose appear.
Maybe one day we can have both
When we go from uk to Europe for example we have to fit deflector stickers to the headlights to alter the beam so we don’t dazzle drivers on the other side of the road.
In the us I don’t think you have this. Driving at night in the USA is horribl, like a thousands subs beaming directly into your eyes.
It isn’t THAT bad here here. It’s getting worse with bright lights and tall cars sure but it’s not on the same level of the USA due to the beam shape
Until they do (because everything has a failure rate) and cost thousands for an entire new projector assembly. Compare to the cost of a halogen bulb every couple 10k miles.
https://vw.oempartsonline.com/v-2024-volkswagen-gti--autobah...
The F150 lights are so high that they're blinding even when properly pointed down. We need proper regulations for maximum height too. And while you're at it, regulations for maximum hood height so that they stop killing so many pedestrians.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckyourheadlights/comments/1mshs0v...
What you get at a restaurant is not hospitality.
You know that you're the second part of that social interaction and can veer off the memorized track?
When you hold wait staff at your table because you want some bonding time with them you're basically forcing them to perform for you. This isn't a consensual social interaction and you aren't strangers on the street on equal footing. Just be polite and make your order and let them go on to the other million things they're doing.
Edit: lets add my own boomer complain: everything is a video <3
As a 50+ year old in tech maybe I’m overly sensitive to this?
The younger generation also has a lot of advantages today that the baby boomers didn’t have, they built them. Like the devices and protocols we’re communicating with, which have also made investing in the economy more accessible than at any other point in human history. And then Gen X made social media for them, when was reduced the barrier to entry for starting a business to next to nothing.
The world is as good or as bad as you want to see it.
It really just means someone I don’t like who’s older than me.
Anyway: it doesn't really matter because this "generations" split is bullshit. The cut-off dates are arbitrary, and there are all kind of people in all generations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials
The philippic leads with a clip of Sophia Petrillo, from the TV show Golden Girls. According to the show, she was born in 1905 or 1905. The actor who portrayed her, Estelle Getty, was born in 1923. Either date makes her a member of the so-called Greatest Generation, after which is the Silent Generation, and only then reaching the Baby Boomers.
Maybe note in writing somewhere that this happened in case you get laid off and need some negotiating leverage to get a better severance. Email to yourself can work well, then it's discoverable.
As I recall, it's a bit more subtle. If the workplace continues to allow discrimination based on a protected characteristic then it will be considered a hostile workplace, which is illegal.
Age is only a protected characteristic for people 40 years old or older, which is every member of Gen X.
This presumes that le-mark's account took place in a workplace. On Twitter, about 6 years ago, a millennial wrote “Ok Boomer” to William Shatner, who replied “Sweetheart, that’s a compliment for me”, as Shatner, born in 1931, would have been in the Silent Generation.
That millennial did nothing illegal.
I couldn't have stated the 2FA thing better... Same with scare tactics (and forcing your hand) about software updates in the name of security. You can't just invoke security as an auto-win card! "Think of the Children."
As a guy with moderate myopia, even low beams can be extremely annoying up to the point of physically hurting my eyes if there are no street lights to reduce the contrast.
I like that I can see better and further, but at the same time if I put my car's low beams just slightly higher so they project more than ~30m away, I get flashed from cars passing in the opposite direction, no high beams required.
Matrix/Adaptive headlights should be mandatory with LED headlights to be honest.
I'm not a fan of QR code menus either, but printed menus are not necessarily cheap. The owner of one of my favourite restaurants told me that he couldn't raise prices on his menu to match inflation because the cost of re-printing all the menus with increased prices would eat up the difference. IIRC, the restaurant later shifted to a cheaper and simpler menu design.
Even if he didn't have to adjust prices due to inflation, surely restaurants adjust the items on their menus frequently. I have been to a restaurant that printed new menus daily because it changed daily. It's like 10 sheets of paper or cardstock. It's not that expensive.
If you're a restaurateur, do you have the .ai files your agency created, an Adobe Illustrator license, and know-how to get in there and change the prices? And then know where/how to deliver the result to get it printed? If so, you probably still have something better to do...
You probably pay an agency an hourly rate plus markup to get them updated, prepped and sent off to be reprinted.
Next time: negotiate fixed prices/timelines for small updates, own the files, and own the relationship with the printers.
At best doing that will do absolutely nothing useful, as anyone who's accidentally driven off with it set will know. At worst it'll spin you, since the hand brakes only lock the rear wheels. This is used deliberately to perform a "handbrake turn", but if you're yanking it like your life depends on it you're turning a front impact with big crumple zones into a side impact.
I suspect modern brakes are much less likely to outright fail like that, and so I don’t know if we still need the emergency aspect of the emergency brake as much.
I have a very hard time believing this quality of writing earns you an income.
This already exists, called money, and obviously won't be used because it's easier to realize how low the number is, but also harder to cancel/inflate away.
Broader than that - is there any big generational divide about subscriptions (or, for that matter, many other points on the list)?
Anyway, either way, it sucks. Some of the headlight glare is so bad now that I'll see afterimage streaks from headlights even during daylight hours!
[0] https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/headlight-complaints-abound...
Fotunately you don't.
> Otherwise, I’ll print my own, on 18-point card stock, bend you over my knee, and spank you with it.
This is sexual harassment.
> Car company executives, if your headlights are bright enough to light up the Mariana Trench,
This is impossible.
> All your turning Photoshop into a monthly subscription did — was make me download the free version, GIMP.
GIMP is a separate piece of software and is not the free version of photoshop.
> I used to have one cable bill, now I have to rotate streaming subscriptions like they’re the tires on my Corolla.
Cable still exists.
> And how can we hit the button for every floor to mess with our friends on a touchscreen?
The fact that it's a touchscreen doesn't stop you from doing this.
> I don’t want to download an app for every store and restaurant I go into.
Fortunately you don't have to.
> I shouldn’t need a magnifying glass to read where to put the allen key, and if I do need one, I can tell you where I’m shoving that allen key.
I am not getting the impression that you could actually tell me this.
> And you’re forcing your minimum-wage, I-can’t-afford-shit 17-year-old worker to keep pestering us long after we say no. They care even less about this bullshizzle than we do.
Why does she censor the word shit once but not twice?
> But of all the things that different generations can’t agree on, I think the endless procession of useless nope-ity nope bullshit listed above are a few places we can come together.
This suggests coming together about things we can't agree on strangely.
Dude. Photoshop was like $700 back in 2008. You weren’t buying that anyway, you were pirating it or using an old unregistered copy of Paint Shop Pro.
I’m not gonna argue that every single app being either a subscription or an in-app purchase funnel now doesn’t suck, but you were not buying that for $30 unless it was from Bob’s Totally Legit House Of Burnt CDs.
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