Microsoft Puts Office Online Server on the Chopping Block
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Microsoft is ending support for Office Online Server, pushing users towards Microsoft 365, which has sparked concerns about data ownership and control among users.
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"Modern" is becoming a tech euphemism for regression.
I also really hate that "Teams" within Teams don't have normal text channels like Slack or Discord, they're forums. I can't stand this design choice and refuse to use it.
It's such a frustrating app where the bar to entry was insanely low. I do like their office integration, but its like, well you couldn't have butchered that up.
If you can get notifications sorted out and allow notification on creation of a topic but not on messages within a topic, I really like this choice.
The plague of Slack is constant pings in a channel that you need to need to monitor and thus can't mute, thanks to participants who refuse to start a thread and insist on having extended conversations in the root of the channel. Forcing thread/topic creation solves that problem.
That was a mind blown for me when someone told me about that... Not sure how anyone found out about it, I man wouldn't anyone expect that to... Stop sharing too?
* Designed at the highest possible level, on top of multiple layers of frameworks, libraries, and dependencies that the developers do not fully understand.
* Full of anti-patterns that implicate privacy and security in a variety of ways.
* Designed as a walled garden, offering hobbled interoperability with other solutions, while attempting to vertically integrate features better implemented elsewhere -- or, in some cases, the exact opposite: designed as an excessively minimal solution, leaving concerns that should be addressed within its own scope unhandled.
* Unlikely to be viable for long-term deployment due to high time sensitivity in its dependencies; correspondingly fragile in ways that aren't fully accounted for.
* Built with a UI adhering to no coherent design patterns, targeting the presumed ability limits of people who will never likely use the product, while being wholly insufficient for those who actually do.
* Released prematurely with half-implemented features, unmitigated bugs, and incomplete documentation.
* Overhyped to the point that the majority of public discussion about the project consists of vague, unverifiable bullshit.
In my mind it's even simpler: an attempt to confuse newness and trendiness with goodness to mask the smell of shit.
The truth is a modern turd is still a turd.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/join-a-microsoft-...
I really miss this in places like Discord.
Is it better than Slack? Unclear.
It is better than it used to be. Assuming you have noticed it acting weird and restarted it as many as 3 times until all the updates have been applied.
Seems like a good time for jumping ship and trying out OnlyOffice.
There's plenty of sensitive environments that need to be air-gapped from the internet where Microsoft's products dominate.
They seem to be giving up on that market entirely.
I mean sure, this isn't the case if you're on an AD. I just wonder for how long.
Every time I run the VM, it has windows updates to install. I guess it's a bit nicer swiping away from the VM and doing something else when it updates but it's a real solid reminder why I "moved away".
You can disable with group policy. Or stop after boot the update service.
I've noticed there is a point in dual booting where you do enough in Linux that you can't get back to windows without it updating. This pushes you to stay longer and longer in Linux, to avoid the dreaded update.
I've already seen a few people accidentally pestering themselves out of windows this way.
Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering Sharepoint; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee
I use pen and paper for a lot of purposes for which other people use some arbitrary application or smartphone app. This is thus in my opinion just a matter of what you are used to and what your taste is (I often say: "Simply use the tool/application that you know well: it will often be suitable.").
this denial that companies seem to have about the lack of a true need for on-premise infrastructure is maddening, because it is truly needed by some; cloud solutions simply do not suffice. Microsoft is doing this to turn one-time payments into subscriptions and they're calling it "cloud first". Call it "cloud only" if that's what you mean, you dorks.
Too many people with MBAs in this industry. You lose ALL contact with reality once you get an MBA, and reality matters little compared to revenue and perceived value delivery.
Instead: Remember that storing files in the cloud is highly commoditized, especially by Non-Microsoft companies. The APIs to hook cloud storage into Windows are well-documented. This is a niche best served by small-medium sized businesses, and/or open-source software.