Kohler Launches Smart Toilet Camera
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Kohler has launched a smart toilet with a camera, sparking concerns about privacy and data security among HN users, who question the necessity and potential risks of such a device.
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between $70 and $156 per year for a subscription.
who would do that ?
nevermind its a rule 35 scenario.
Discriminating anal-ysts.
But I think this is a product that probably shouldn't be allowed to exist as a standard SaaS/IoT product.
If this was a box I could hook up on my toilet that showed useful info on a screen locally - with zero network access... I'd consider buying.
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People are really glib about the loss of control relying on someone else's computer brings.
between service enshittification, company death (out of business), privacy concerns, and ownership contention (do I own a device if a company keeps keys to the locks inside it and won't give them to me? I'd argue a solid and resounding "NO")... I don't want anything to do with most modern networked devices in the form of IoT.
Electric bidets are not uncommon, and are popular depending where you are in the world.
What a weird product, I don’t want anyone examinining my feces remotely unless I give them a sample myself.
Strangely enough, the Secret Service goes to great lengths to intercept and dispose of the President’s bodily waste (like disconnecting the black water pipe and connecting a temporary tank to collect waste). I believe Putin has his waste collected as well, probably other world leaders too.
But besides the point, are you like some vested interest in poop-cam? Or why all the intense defense of this ridiculous idea? Is it your baby I am pointing flaws out in through some satire?
Okay, then it should be easy to answer: What got logged on March 12th at 2:43 AM, 2003?
Or even just last month? Do you know how the average amount of mass has changed over the last 6 months with any accuracy, or are you eyeballing it and assuming that there's no variation?
> But besides the point, are you like some vested interest in poop-cam? Or why all the intense defense of this ridiculous idea? Is it your baby I am pointing flaws out in through some satire?
Rule of thumb: Ad hominem never makes your position stronger.
The status quo is that I have enough skin in the game when it comes to my health, that if something doesn't feel or look normal (and I didn't just eat a lot of beets), I go to the doctor. It would save me an annual subscription cost, too, and it's a big upfront cost for when Kohler no longer wants to support it (a lot of people have Nest thermostats that are losing all of their useful functionality in a few days).
If this helps people with specific conditions, that's great, but, I'm having a hard time picturing someone who is so out of touch with their body that they will pay for this and follow its recommendations.
I expect weight to be valuable, simple to collect, precise, and quantified (thus simple to analyze). Assuming excrement and urine have consistent masses, you would have good data on half of the food input/output equation, which could tell you about hydration and nutrition, the efficiency of fluid and solid digestion, etc. (Input is more difficult to measure.)
Density might also help; a sensor in the output pipe below might measure it after a consistent water pressure is applied.
For the OP, I wonder how sophisticated these instruments are. For example, using the empty bowl as baseline, you might automatically collect and quantify color data.
Probably tough to do much with just information about the outputs.
I’m excited about this product, but curious about the practical logistic of using it and it’s not clear to me how it works from the product page.
So it sounds like you would only need one camera for multiple people using the same toilet.
Could probably also develop a toilet seat that weighs you and measures body composition.
Also this is absolutely insane in the currently climate. I would be interested in data from analysis of my “output” but there is not a chance I would trust any company in the modern age to not sell the resultant data. If I develop signs of colon cancer or something is that going to silently impact my insurance rates because of data brokering?
Marketing department working overtime with that name
https://www.withings.com/us/en/u-scan-nutrio
This is really the dream of the Cloud to Butt Chrome extension.
feels like the onion wrote this.
Intentional humour?