Oracle Roared Into AI Gold Rush, but Its Taking on Huge Amounts of Debt to Do So
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The dot com crash helped none of course, the $2Billion Cobalt Network acquisition was particularly dumb. However by 2007 they were no longer in red, they had just spent a billion on MySQL that year and were in decent financial shape.
Sure they weren’t growing, but there was no urgent need to sell . They could have stuck around and who knows MySQL or Open Office could have grown or even Java Licensing from Android adoption or be selling hypervisor or core tech to then emerging cloud tooling OpenSolaris had ZFS , Containers, DTrace and some really cool software that Linux simply lacked. Sun had developer mindshare and ton of goodwill which would have quite valuable to just anyone not named Oracle particularly so around the Ballmer years.
Oracle itself is a testament that sticking around pays eventually, for that matter NVIDIA stuck around to twice ride a hype cycle first the crypto one and now AI.
The board and management just didn’t have any vision so jumped at the second offer, that is hardly attributable to dot com burst, just poor management.
Even selling to Big Blue, when IBM came knocking first would have been better for everyone(including arguably also Oracle). Oracle was and is not to be equipped to engage with the developer community.
In the short term stuff doesn't need to bring in revenue - if the belief that it might make a lot of money moves share prices that is good enough.
You don't even need to believe that yourself, you just need to believe that a sufficient number of other people will be fooled.
What bugs me about recent circular dealing along these lines is, it seems like sort of trick that can be used to steal from people holding indexes. If companies like Nvidia and Oracle go up as a result of circular deals that are not creating "real" value - that nonetheless causes index funds (i.e, people's retirement accounts) to buy more of them.
The massive problem of OpenAI and others are open source models. Companies can count and if bill for AI assistants are above 100k USD, why not just buy a server for same money, run there open source model and as bonus point stop leaking your IP to 3rd parties.
Also, according to LLM Arena, all the best models are proprietary (bc trade secrets can be very powerful).
Oracle will have to borrow at least $25B a year to fund AI fantasy, says analyst
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45417523
The biggest sign of an AI bubble is starting to appear – debt
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45461975