America Surrenders in the Global Information Wars
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The article 'America Surrenders in the Global Information Wars' argues that the US is losing its influence in global information wars, sparking a discussion on the role of US propaganda and foreign policy.
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new media by the other
thus both types are dumping on the other
Our government sold out our ideals for cheap.
[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbE3q4oO2JQ
I honestly assumed you had to donate $10k dinner plate to a politician for them to do more than email you a boilerplate response.
NED also enjoys deep support across Congress, and has an organizational structure designed to protect it from political attack: It is run not by the U.S. government but by an independent, bipartisan board, which allows it to keep its distance from partisan politics. I was on that board from 2016 until 2024 and can attest that the conspiracy theories are wrong. The endowment’s board members are not secret intelligence officers but former civil servants, members of Congress, academics, and regional experts. Nobody pays them for the work they do, pro bono, on NED’s behalf.
And apparently contrary to conspiracy theories, NED is just a bog standard NGO?
> In 1983, Casey and Raymond focused on creating a funding mechanism to support Freedom House and other outside groups that would engage in propaganda and political action that the CIA had historically organized and paid for covertly. The idea emerged for a congressionally funded entity that would serve as a conduit for this money.
> But Casey recognized the need to hide the strings being pulled by the CIA. “Obviously we here [at CIA] should not get out front in the development of such an organization, nor should we appear to be a sponsor or advocate,” Casey said in one undated letter to then-White House counselor Edwin Meese III as Casey urged creation of a “National Endowment.” [1/2]
> In 1991 a cofounder of the National Endowment for Democracy, Allen Weinstein, explained its work by saying, “A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA.”[3]
A bog standard NGO conceived of by the Director of the CIA to fill the role the CIA once did. But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln?
[0] https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2002/01/targeting-radio-...
[1] https://consortiumnews.com/2015/01/08/cias-hidden-hand-in-de...
[2] https://consortiumnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/casey-...
[3] https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2021/10/21/what-is-national...
Propaganda is always coercive, always designed to make people act against their inclinations. It serves the interests of the powerful. But what I don’t get is why we’re making this propaganda instead of that propaganda.
Basically, the cultural journey is: naive idealism -> ironic skepticism -> balanced synthesis.
More concretely: first we told stories about how good guys were good and trustworthy. Then we told stories about how good guys could be corrupted. Now we’re trying to tell stories where good guys exist despite the possibility of corruption.
It’s useless to believe that everything is so complex maybe good and bad aren’t meaningful. We need the courage to take a moral stand amidst complexity.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamodernism
https://youtu.be/5xEi8qg266g
The allegiances of the oligarchs have changed.
Imagine a modern remake of Casablanca. Amoral Rick is a friend of the Nazis. He gladly hands Laszlo to Strasser. Ilsa despises Rick and Louis has him shot.
The atlantic itself is a megaphone for american interests. There's a revolving door between DC and these rags
At least they are both consistent in that trying to sign up for a subscription leads to the same message.
At best, this doesn't support the headline. If the U.S. is truly influencing the world so well with its foreign policy, regardless of policy changes that's the complete opposite of a surrender. That's domination.
In reality this article is just dumb and The Atlantic thinks the reader is even dumber. People don't like any form of propaganda regardless of where they live. If the U.S. is shutting down its own outdated and ineffective propaganda machines, who cares? That's not protection of foreign propaganda if nobody listens to that stuff either.